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ZedZdeD 14th March 2010 12:47 AM

Phantom Race 320 filmed with GoPro Full HD
 
I dont understand why Starboard does so little to promote this excellent board. Since I bought it, I rediscovered the pleasure of sailing as often as I wish, like in the old days, and always with the great sensations of a regatta board.

Little new camera is fine too ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0IGYF6HA00

Per 14th March 2010 07:22 PM

Excellent video. A no wind day becomes funny.
Longboards do have a place on the market. To be honest, more than 50% of the days where I want to go windsurfing the wind is too low or just too shitty, even for my formula and +10 sail. I love blasting my iSonic in heavy winds, but this kind of surfing is only 20% of my time on the water due to lack of wind.
I've got myself an old Equipe 372, and now everything from + 5 knots of wind is a surfing day. And don't worry, I've clocked + 26 knots on it easily in medium winds with a 8.5. Longboards can be quite quick.

I wonder how the hybrids like the 320 work compared to "real" longboards (380 cm) in light wind.

Old designs vs. new designs? Anybody have experience?

;-) Per

tonymatta 15th March 2010 08:07 AM

The few occasions I have raced my 320 against old style longboards, I have been doing as well or better upwind than the long boards but not so well downwind. Some of that could be a differnce in skill since the others were much more experienced sailers.

I certainly find it easier to sail the 320 downwind (stability) because of the wider more boyant tail. I am only 64kg, so I imagine a heavier sailer would also benefit from the higher volume of the longer board.

I think the 320 could barely be called a hybrid although it may comply with hybrid class rules. compared to the previous SB hybrid race and SB hybrid formula, The RSX, the Bic Hybrid. It is much closer to a lower volume raceboard than any of the previous hybrid designs. The 2010 phantom 320 detail is even closer to the 380 than the previous model shown in the video.

I think a skilled light person on the 320 would give the longer boards something to think about, but it would always be hard to beat the longer water line in light winds.

Darko_Z 15th March 2010 04:53 PM

I think Phantom Race 320 can win against classic long boards if wind is strong enough, and I’m sure it can do better than RSX in any case.

ZedZdeD 17th March 2010 05:20 AM

My impression is that the compact size of the Phantom 320, along with important volume and moderate width, provide really pleasant sensations. I suppose it is less performing than a longer board in light winds, but with more versatility in the high part of its wind range. I also was very happy to discover that you could use it as a kayak, with the very comfortable seat sold by Bic for the Jungle, and also as a SUP for promenade (not for waves). I will illustrate these possibilities in a future video.

Per 17th March 2010 11:24 PM

The 320 may be more controlled and efficient in higher winds compared to a traditional long board. But anyway in 20 knots a formula will probably beat both of them.
I have both formula and a 372 longboard. What I'm thinking of is if a 320 will give me the best of both worlds? I don't mind loosing some marginal formula planing in favour of the longboards glide and excellent pointing.

The 372 is very efficient in very light stuff due to a very long waterline length. It gives 1 knots of speed per each knot of wind (yes I point 50 degrees to the wind at 8-10 knots of speed in 8-10 knots of wind - and I have fun "killing" any sailing yacht on my spot) Can the 320 beat this?

Will the 320 carry a 10m sail and plane well with it?
Will it compare on speed with a formula on a broad reach (no extremes) in t.ex. 15 - 20 knots of wind?

;-)
Per

tonymatta 18th March 2010 09:15 AM

My experience with the 320 (09 model)is that it is much more like the longboard than formula.

I have found it to be faster than most of the dinghies upwind, It can easily do 50degrees to the wind, but those with kites and spinikers always win downwind in nonplaning conditions.

It will carry the 10m sail and plane with it very comfortably but will be slower than the formula probably in every direction in winds over 15knots. (for Darko-Z) I have owned and RSX and I would say it would also be faster in every direction over 15 knots.

I find the 320 on par with the longer boards in 8 to 12 knots but a bit slower in lighter winds, and more so downwind.

Per - Your present two board solution is probably the best but if you only want to have one board, the 320 would be a good option.

Remi 18th March 2010 11:19 PM

Hi All,

You can found photos of the Phantom Race 320 & 380 with the Severne Race-Board on my personal Facebook

All the best

Per 19th March 2010 12:24 AM

Thanks Tonymatta. Maybe I chould just stay with my luxury option of two light wind boards..

Remi:
I'm not a Facebook member.
Can you show the pictures somehow else?

;-)
Per

Remi 19th March 2010 07:48 AM

Hi Per,

You should have one, but please see some here, I have a lot more on my Facebook. Photos by Tiesda You.

http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/2829/jpegmg7080.jpg
http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/7741/jpegd9s7147.jpg
http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/2462/jpegmg7110.jpg
http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/6974/jpegmg7098.jpg

All the best


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