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chris133 25th August 2010 10:17 PM

Next board size
I'm currently using a Futura 133 but now looking to get something smaller. Although I'm only 70kg I bought the 133 for it's stability and because I could use a large sail with it. It's a great board up to about 20 knots then it all gets a bit ragged, especially as it's so choppy where I sail.

I was thinking of a Futura 111. Does this sound about right in terms of size and also suitable for windy/choppy conditions? I'm keeping the 133 so I would only use the new board for windy conditions.

COACHG 25th August 2010 11:10 PM

I think you should consider the 93 liter Futura as your next board size down. At 70 kg & 20 knots the 111 would still be bouncy in choppy waters. You should also consider sail range. The 111 would probably be 5.5-8.0 for you which would leave an lot of sail overlap with the two boards.

I weigh around 80 kg and use the 93 & 133 Futuras. The 93 sail range for me is 4.5-6.6 & the 133 is 6.6-8.5 so I only have one sail overlap.


Ken 26th August 2010 01:41 AM


Coachg makes good points, but if you want something that you can uphaul if necessary without much trouble, the 101 may be the board. You can probably uphaul the 93, but it will be a bit tricky. If you have a lot of windy days over 20 knots, then the 93 may be the better option. Regardless, the 111 is too close to the 133 and you need to go smaller.

agrelon 26th August 2010 01:21 PM

I'm 60kg and I have the Futura 93l as my only board, with a 5.8m. It's fine to uphaul, and for me goes nicely as of about 14-15knts. If you plan to use this next board only for over 20 knts the 93l would probably be best, as CoachG says.

However, if you get a 111 or 101 it might give you the chance to use it more in 17knts ish, where it would probably be more fun than the 133. It all depends on how much overlap you want.

All I can say is that for my weight, when the wind is here, the 93l smokes. Jibes so instinctively and chop hops so easily once you've got the technique down.

Farlo 26th August 2010 06:26 PM

What are your smallest/largest sails? The 101 may very well become your favourite (if not only) board. I'm about your weight and use boards in that range most of the time, with sails 5.5~7.8 which cover a great wind range already.

Unregistered 27th August 2010 02:24 AM

My smallest sail is 4.4 and my largest 8.3 although I will probably buy a 9m sometime in the future. I tend to go out every weekend regardless of wind speed so I need to cover the whole range. My 133 is perfect for large sails as it's stable and planes very early.

Unregistered 27th August 2010 05:00 AM

Sol mottonve
I agree with Ken, who like me, lives around Dallas where it is often necessary to uphaul in a crunch.

It depends on where you are should easily be able to sail the 93 and have great fun, but if your location is gusty and shifty where the wind suddenly goes missing this can mean a lot of lost time trying to waterstart or uphaul.

If your location is some place like the gorge, maui, tex coast, parts of east coast, go smaller, otherwise; go with the 111.

mario.milhazes 27th August 2010 05:02 AM


Im 80 Kg and i have the Futura 122 and the Futura 101
I use them like this:

Futura 101 - 5.0m ; 5.4m ; 6.2m (two fins - 30cm and 34cm)
Futura 122 - 7.0m ; 8.0m (one fin - 40cm)

I can sail with this kit from 12 knots to 35knots

For you i think the best option is to get a 101L board, very stable, fast and with your weight you can uphaul it.
I think 111L will be to close and 93 to far from the 133L.

Think like this:
If you buy a 111 L board and in a future want to buy a lower board you have to go to a 90L
If you buy a 101L board and in a future want to buy a lower board you have to go to a 86L (the most balenced volume board for bump and jump and waves)

Just my opinion

COACHG 27th August 2010 12:05 PM

35 knots with a 5.0 meter sail & 101 liter board? That is insane! I would barely be holding on to my 4.0 on my 70 liter board in that kind of wind wishing I had something smaller.


PG 27th August 2010 03:51 PM

I think it is a question of skills (waterstarting, jibes, etc:), and also about the venue you are sailing. Another question is what you would like to be the crossover sail size in your 2-board quiver. When do you want to switch to a smaller board?

If you have waterstarts dialled I would not hesitate to recommend something in the 95 liter range, a Futura or a Kode depending on what style of sailing you want to do in higher winds. Bigger boards will just be very bumpy at your weight when the wind picks up.

If your highwind sailing is anyhow based on waterstarts, then the +23 liters of for example the Futura 93 will be plenty to perform an uphaul to save yourself from swimming. But the volume is too small if you don't waterstart...

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