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Old 21st September 2008, 05:23 PM   #18
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Svein, thanks for posting that interesting reply. Much respect for what you have done with Starboard and in sailing.

However, the claim on the FOD bid is that most RACERS want a planing class, not that most windsurfers want a planing class. However, leaving that point aside, can we please ask where you got that information about the fact that FW is the largest windsurfing class today?

Much of the class size information I can find is below;

French National Rankings.

BIC 293D voir les règles de classement
Masculin 20/09/2008 (533)
Féminin 20/09/2008 (170)
Funboard voir les règles de classement
Masculin 20/09/2008 (115)
Féminin 20/09/2008 (18)
Formula Windsurfing voir les règles de classement
Masculin 20/09/2008 (111)
Féminin 20/09/2008 (12)
Longue distance voir les règles de classement
Homme 20/09/2008 (680)
Femme 20/09/2008 (71)
RaceBoard voir les règles de classement
Masculin 20/09/2008 (328)
Féminin 20/09/2008 (94)

Kona One - 401 (I think a lot of these people just borrowed a Kona for a regatta)

German windsurfing association rankings

Raceboard = 130 sailors
Junior Longboard = 95 sailors
DWC Slalom/Formula/wave/freestyle = 70 sailors including 8 under 20 years.
Kona One = 64
Techno 293 OD = 25 sailors (growing)
RSX = 25 sailors
IMCO = 15 sailors
Mistral Junior = 5 to 10 sailors


2007 Techno 293 OD hybrid worlds (under 17)= 166 entries (I think that the entries were restricted due to demand exceeding the available spots).
2007 FE Junior Worlds = 10 entries.
2007 FW Junior Worlds = 12 entries


2007 FE Youth worlds = 5 entries.
2007 FW Youth Worlds = 48 entries.
2007 RSX Youth Worlds = 65 entries
2007 Raceboard Youth Euros = 34 entries.

British national circuit - Techno 293 (junior hybrid) =145 entries
Formula Windsurfer =84 entries
Raceboard = 80 entries
RSX hybrid =59 entries
Kona One = 11 entries (new class)

British Team 15 (for kids 15 years and under -requires centreboard for zone racing, aims to develop kids to sail Techno hybrid) = about 80 clubs. Each team can put up to 15 kids into a zone-level race. That's something like 800 kids on boards with centreboards.

US Nationals 08 -
17 FW entries
2 FE entries
Raceboards 25 entries
Hybrid 5 entries
Sports Fleet (longboards/hybrids) 12 entries.

US ranking list 07 -
FW 85
Open (inc. raceboard, Kona, etc) 80
Kona One Design 48
Hybrid 29
FE 24.

Australian national titles, average fleet last 2 seasons

Windsurfer One Design 32
Raceboard - 31.5
FW - 25
RSX= 8?
Junior One NSW titles (biggest kid's titles) = 15.
T 293 - 5
Note FW & Windsurfer One Design small fleets this year due to locations.

I can't read Polish but obviously Poland could have huge FW fleets. Hong Kong still has strong RB fleets and IMCOs. The Netherlands seems to get 25 for the REggio Cup (FW) and similar numbers of the longboard events. Canada seems to be 50/50 short and longboards AFAIK.

The FW reports to ISAF do not report more than 100 sailors in any country, although they used to. I assume these are incorrect.

Ignoring the T15 kids & worlds (which tilt numbers to longboards and hybrids), that's 733 Raceboarders versus 404 FW sailors, plus the 800 or so "non pumping" one designers and the hybrid sailors, who outnumber everyone.

These are very far from perfect figures, but they don't seem to show that "planing boards" are the most popular among regular racers.

Could you please provide us with the information that proves that the above figures, which show that most racers do not sail a "planing board", are incorrect?
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