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Old 24th February 2010, 09:08 AM   #4
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Hi Luis,
I pretty much agree with Ken here.
For an 83 kg. sailor, the 144 is going to be awfully large for much over 15 knots.
The 133 or better still the 122 will go easily to 20 knots, but not much over that.
111 liters would be good, 101 even better, but neither or these will be very useable
at your low wind spot (unless you want to "slog around" simiilar to what you are probably doing now, only on a sinkier board.
Notice I said "sinkier" not "sinker".
You would have to get down in the < 100 liter range to get into anything that really "sinks" but at first, even the 111 (when compared to your 140+ liter club boards)
is going to seem like a sinker until you get used to it.
The lower volume boards really won't "sink", but they will demand you place your weight (and your feet) a whole lot more carefully, and that you move forward and back on the board in response to speed (until, of course, you are in the footstraps).
Once fully planing and in the footstraps all the time, you will have mastered most of the rest of the skills you will need (as long as you have enough wind to plane in the straps).
As far as the Gorge, even the 111 or 101 will be too big (on good days anyway) but used boards are plentiful and inexpensive in the Gorge.
Might be good to make a trip from BC down to the Gorge to purchase your rigs.
There is a ton of well priced used gear available in the Gorge.
You can even shop at full service lofts (like the Sailworks loft) where you can get great
gear (good pricing on both new and used) and have the guys help you to put it all together and ensure that you get all the right bits and pieces that will work really well and last a long time.
I think you could easily save more than the cost of the trip and end up with better gear integration, and gear that will work in the Gorge when you get there in the summer.
The Sailworks guys also know Squamish and can probably give you sound advice on what to get for BC sailing as well.
The "different forum" info I will assume is from sailors who sail alot at Squamish, right?
If so, it sounds about right, and you will adjust to smaller gear pretty quickly.
If you have a good wetsuit (you may spend a little more time in that cold river water for your first few sessions on smaller gear) you will adjust quickly. I assure you (weigh about the same as you) the smaller boards will not sink and leave you stranded in the middle of the river, but you will have to be alot more careful when you uphaul as to where you put your weight.
On smaller boards, it's not just side to side positioning that matters, front to back begins to matter more and more as the boards get smaller.
I can pretty easily uphaul a 96 liter board, but I've been doing it along time and it's still not so easy on a board that small.
Give me 99 or 100 liters and I'm golden.
The nice part of sailing Squamish and the Gorge will be that you will have enough wind to learn to waterstart.
Learning to waterstart in < 14 knots is not easy.
Over 14 knots up to 20 knots is ideal for learning to waterstart, so Squamish should be very good for this except on the very windy (over 20 knots) days.
You are going to need more than 2 sails to cover < 15 knots at Jericho, and 15-25 knots at Squamish.
I'd think 4.6-5.0m2 0 for higher winds, 5.2-5.6 m2 for medium days, and 6.2-6.8 for light wind at Squamish, 7.5-8.5 for Jericho.
Hope this helps,

Last edited by Roger; 24th February 2010 at 09:11 AM.
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