Since mid of Dec I have my Apollo. Until now I did a view test rides with 11,8 11,0 and 10 SSR and R19 75 and 70cm. I found by the help of my GPS that the upwind average speed is 3 - 5 km/h less compared to the F161. So I can go higher in low winds. Finally that means the optimum planing design speed in upwind is 3-5km/h less than that of the F161. So overall this will result in a lower necessary windspeed for planing, app the posted 2kn. During my tests the wind speed was between 7-10kn. Testrials Apollo vs. F61 will follow.