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Old 26th May 2007, 08:33 AM   #1
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I just tried to post a message in reply to someone on the ask our team, and received a message that "you are not authorised to view this Forum."

What's that all about? I am a physician, a loyal starboard owner and longtime member (but infrequent poster) on the starboard forums. i was going to answer a medical question that a poster had about allergies.

I'm not so sure about the new starboard forums....
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Old 26th May 2007, 09:59 AM   #2
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Hi Jack,

For whatever reason (system or user) you may not have been logged in correctly when you attempted to post inside the Ask Team Forum.

Would you please be so kind as to log in, and try to post your useful reply again?

We agree the default "decline" message wording in that mode is less positive than it should be,
and have already moved to amend the text to a more friendly and related message.

For the record, any visitor, registered or not, logged in or not can view all our public forums.
User log in is required to post in all except the Free Forum, where the option of unregistered
or casual posting using the security (anti spam) code is optional.

Cheers ~ Ian
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Old 26th May 2007, 02:28 PM   #3
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the "anti spam" code is called "captcha"
and the whole UI could use a good working over, a number of things are, lets say, not really logical (irrational)...
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Old 26th May 2007, 06:38 PM   #4
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Thanks RMH,

Maybe add a little explanation of how turing actually works,
as well as what else a captcha might capture?

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Old 27th May 2007, 12:44 AM   #5
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captcha
but otherwise, the site is coming up again, thanks to people, who haven't deserted it (eventhough others, as you well know (nice collecting computer name/or logging IPs and cross checking (or just guessing)) have remarked DO find it at times difficult to use).
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Old 27th May 2007, 12:51 AM   #6
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oh yeah, forgot to say, your captcha could be cracked like in 2 seconds... Nice not having exploited that fact...
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Old 27th May 2007, 06:15 AM   #7
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[ Let's for 2 seconds go back to the top of this thread and think about why it started ?]

Solution to the problem ? Or part of the cause ??

It also takes about 2 seconds to go back to fundamentals and for the average user to work out that the reason this - and many other forums - have been reluctantly closed. or forced to move away from easy "open" access (and use more complex registered logins and potentially problematic UIs etc etc etc) is not the behaviour of the majority of users, but the behaviour of a small % of others who chose to abuse, misuse, exploit or even threaten via the priviledge of unrestricted access.

I'd say the clear majority of users on this (and similar) Forums would fully agree that everyone has (as a result) been forced to live under a less free environment because of the actions, or implied actions of a minority. That doesn't make the minority right. Noting also that most would agree those few are most likely not as tough or intelligent as they would like to posture.

Maybe stuff like posting threats (proposing exploiting system security), abuse (like suggesting our staff take pleasure like dogs who lick their own apendage), or even "replying" to their own posts, or throwing unfounded criticisms, all without the decency (or balls in surfing terms) to add your ID is pretty lame in most people's view.

Certainly it's counterproductive to both good forum conduct and good forum participation.

Yet, it's those same misuse guys who scream "censorship" when such comments would be removed.

And the captcha, in case you haven't worked it out, is not there to be crackproof.
Most especially not designed to be crackproof against intentional human user abuse...the sort of behaviour that would certainly get a user shut down not only on any forum, but most likely by their own ISP.

You know, making implied threats anywhere these days is not so clever either...

And isn't showing us how smart you are what it's all about ?

Another 2 seconds ???

Take it easy, or take it somewhere else. We'll all have a better day, Rob.

And a better Forum.

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