Fins Spin out - for Remi

marvin377 · 27th October 2007, 07:28 PM

Remi,
I have two Deboichet fins (R13 S+ +8 70cm) (R19 S-- +6 70cm)
My equipment: Starboard 160, Gaastra Vapor 10.0 and 11.0. (1,90m and 83kg)
I'm having too many spin outs with the R19. Why? What can I do? I need some tips to avoid spin outs?
Thanks in advance
Marvin

marvin377 · 10th November 2007, 03:22 AM

Remi.... I'm waiting for your answer
Thanks

Remi · 10th November 2007, 03:40 PM

Hi Marvin377,

Sorry ididn't see your post. I used the same fin in + 8 and no problems and we are almost the height and weight, can you give me your trims to see whats going wrong.

All the best

marvin377 · 14th November 2007, 07:16 AM

I'm using the mast track in the middle and when above 18-20 knots a move it a bit forward.
The sails I use to downhaul a bit more than recomended. I don't know what else do you need?
I have just received this R19 and I sailed just twice with it. Maybe I didn´t get used to it and need practice more. But I spin out even in downwind!!. Some tips would help.

Thank you again

raffig · 14th November 2007, 01:27 PM

Marvin,
I had the same problems with my R19 soft-- +8cm and I was so pissed off with it that I ended up selling it. When I switch to my R13 M +6 I do not have the same spin out problem. I never discovered the reason and I tried lots of setups, but probably the fin was too hard (the Drake fin was much softer). Sorry that I do not offer any solution, I was very dissapointed with it!

Rafa

Remi · 14th November 2007, 02:47 PM

Hi marvin377 & raffig,

This is my tips as Julien Quentel who wins the European. This is not to used over 15 knots to give very good result, over we go to other fins.

Mast track position : A bit behind the middle of all the mast track
Phoostsraps : All of them in the back and outside
Height boom : eayes
Harness line : I have trim harness line, but definitely same longer of my arm. Sorry my english is not perfect but you take your boom and harness line arrive to hook your elbow
Trim of the sail : normal
My height : 186cm
My weight : 85kgs
Hope this can help.

All the best

marvin377 · 20th November 2007, 06:24 PM

Thanks Remi and Raffig.
I will try this trim in low winds.
Marvin

27th October 2007, 07:28 PM	#1
marvin377 New Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 12	Fins Spin out - for Remi Remi, I have two Deboichet fins (R13 S+ +8 70cm) (R19 S-- +6 70cm) My equipment: Starboard 160, Gaastra Vapor 10.0 and 11.0. (1,90m and 83kg) I'm having too many spin outs with the R19. Why? What can I do? I need some tips to avoid spin outs? Thanks in advance Marvin

10th November 2007, 03:22 AM	#2
marvin377 New Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 12	Waiting Remi.... I'm waiting for your answer Thanks

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10th November 2007, 03:40 PM	#3
Remi STARBOARD DEVELOPMENT Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Thailand Posts: 2,334	Hi Marvin377, Sorry ididn't see your post. I used the same fin in + 8 and no problems and we are almost the height and weight, can you give me your trims to see whats going wrong. All the best

14th November 2007, 07:16 AM	#4
marvin377 New Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 12	I'm using the mast track in the middle and when above 18-20 knots a move it a bit forward. The sails I use to downhaul a bit more than recomended. I don't know what else do you need? I have just received this R19 and I sailed just twice with it. Maybe I didn´t get used to it and need practice more. But I spin out even in downwind!!. Some tips would help. Thank you again

14th November 2007, 01:27 PM	#5
raffig Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 49	Marvin, I had the same problems with my R19 soft-- +8cm and I was so pissed off with it that I ended up selling it. When I switch to my R13 M +6 I do not have the same spin out problem. I never discovered the reason and I tried lots of setups, but probably the fin was too hard (the Drake fin was much softer). Sorry that I do not offer any solution, I was very dissapointed with it! Rafa

14th November 2007, 02:47 PM	#6
Remi STARBOARD DEVELOPMENT Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Thailand Posts: 2,334	Hi marvin377 & raffig, This is my tips as Julien Quentel who wins the European. This is not to used over 15 knots to give very good result, over we go to other fins. Mast track position : A bit behind the middle of all the mast track Phoostsraps : All of them in the back and outside Height boom : eayes Harness line : I have trim harness line, but definitely same longer of my arm. Sorry my english is not perfect but you take your boom and harness line arrive to hook your elbow Trim of the sail : normal My height : 186cm My weight : 85kgs Hope this can help. All the best

20th November 2007, 06:24 PM	#7
marvin377 New Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 12	Thanks Remi and Raffig. I will try this trim in low winds. Marvin