gain in early planning 8,8 to 10,0 for 82 cm slalom board

MacTS · 12th August 2009, 07:56 PM

Hi,

Sorry for a non-starboard related question on this forum.....

I have a 135 L 82 cm width as my biggest slalom board. I have 8,8 as biggest sail for it and a 49 cm fin.
In the summer where i live we often have quite light wind and it is often that the 8,8 feel just a little bit to small.
I wonder if I would gain a lot of early planning potential by adding a 9,8-10,0 sail and of course a bigger fin?

My weight is appr 98-100 kg and I compete on national level in slalom as well as some local competitions.

Ola_H · 12th August 2009, 09:02 PM

I've asked Kevin to comment when he gets some time after the racing.

Deja Vu · 13th August 2009, 12:33 AM

I notice a big difference between an 8.5 and a 9.5 for light wind slalom. The difference is evident when the winds are light and gusty. You may have to pump your 8.8 like crazy to get going when a 10.0 (assuming your board will carry it comfortably) will pull you onto to a plane with little effort. You may be able to plane through your gybe with the 10, but not with the 8.8. In conditions where you can plane easily with the 8.8 I don't think a 10 will help much unless there are some really big holes. The extra grunt of a 10 is only worth it for those really marginal days, but definitely worth it since it will turn a non sailing day into something worthwhile. Once you get beyond a 10 it gets hard to justify unless you're a super heavyweight.

MacTS · 13th August 2009, 01:50 AM

thank´s Ola and Deja vu!

I do not want to go bigger than 10 m2. I have been doing formula before but does not enjoy it that much.

mark h · 13th August 2009, 03:13 AM

For sure, you will notice a big difference from 8.8m to 10m. I'm similar weight to you (105kg) on an 85cm XL slalom and feel a big benefit when I switch from 9m to 10m (and bigger fin). Pumping is easier, faster exit out of jibs, better acceleration, better angles up/down wind and generally feeling more powered up. In fact, 8.8m is about as small as you should go on an XL slalom, is yours a JP Slalom 82?

MacTS · 13th August 2009, 03:31 AM

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Originally Posted by mark h

For sure, you will notice a big difference from 8.8m to 10m. I'm similar weight to you (105kg) on an 85cm XL slalom and feel a big benefit when I switch from 9m to 10m (and bigger fin). Pumping is easier, faster exit out of jibs, better acceleration, better angles up/down wind and generally feeling more powered up. In fact, 8.8m is about as small as you should go on an XL slalom, is yours a JP Slalom 82?

Hi Mark,

No, my board is the Naish SP 135. What size of fin would you recommend for a 10m2?

Deja Vu · 13th August 2009, 04:54 AM

Mark H.

What do you think of your Is144? I've sailed the Is133 and find that it is one board that is actually better than the hype! How does our IS144 compare to the big JP Slalom V and some of the other big light wind slalom boards? Sorry for the off topic post, but I'm really curious.

Kevin Pritchard · 13th August 2009, 10:21 PM

I would go with a 10 or the 9.3. For us on the PWA we dont usually use bigger than the 9.3. For you in the light wind you can go with the 10 if you are not racing and just want to be planing early. HOpe this helps.

Kevin

MacTS · 14th August 2009, 06:53 PM

Thank´s for the answers Kevin!

12th August 2009, 07:56 PM	#1
MacTS New Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 16	gain in early planning 8,8 to 10,0 for 82 cm slalom board Hi, Sorry for a non-starboard related question on this forum..... I have a 135 L 82 cm width as my biggest slalom board. I have 8,8 as biggest sail for it and a 49 cm fin. In the summer where i live we often have quite light wind and it is often that the 8,8 feel just a little bit to small. I wonder if I would gain a lot of early planning potential by adding a 9,8-10,0 sail and of course a bigger fin? My weight is appr 98-100 kg and I compete on national level in slalom as well as some local competitions.

13th August 2009, 03:13 AM	#5
mark h Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: NW England, Posts: 661	For sure, you will notice a big difference from 8.8m to 10m. I'm similar weight to you (105kg) on an 85cm XL slalom and feel a big benefit when I switch from 9m to 10m (and bigger fin). Pumping is easier, faster exit out of jibs, better acceleration, better angles up/down wind and generally feeling more powered up. In fact, 8.8m is about as small as you should go on an XL slalom, is yours a JP Slalom 82? __________________ Cheers - Mark H The toys: iSW44 - - iSW49 - iSW53 - iSW58 - iS107 - iS137 - F161. North Warps: F2011 5.2m, 5.7m, 6.3m, 7m, 8m, 8.6m, 9.5m F2006 11m. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

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Kevin Pritchard Dream Team Member Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 442	I would go with a 10 or the 9.3. For us on the PWA we dont usually use bigger than the 9.3. For you in the light wind you can go with the 10 if you are not racing and just want to be planing early. HOpe this helps. Kevin __________________ Kevin Pritchard To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

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12th August 2009, 09:02 PM	#2
Ola_H TEAM Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,191	I've asked Kevin to comment when he gets some time after the racing.

13th August 2009, 12:33 AM	#3
Deja Vu Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 61	I notice a big difference between an 8.5 and a 9.5 for light wind slalom. The difference is evident when the winds are light and gusty. You may have to pump your 8.8 like crazy to get going when a 10.0 (assuming your board will carry it comfortably) will pull you onto to a plane with little effort. You may be able to plane through your gybe with the 10, but not with the 8.8. In conditions where you can plane easily with the 8.8 I don't think a 10 will help much unless there are some really big holes. The extra grunt of a 10 is only worth it for those really marginal days, but definitely worth it since it will turn a non sailing day into something worthwhile. Once you get beyond a 10 it gets hard to justify unless you're a super heavyweight.

13th August 2009, 01:50 AM	#4
MacTS New Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 16	thank´s Ola and Deja vu! I do not want to go bigger than 10 m2. I have been doing formula before but does not enjoy it that much.

13th August 2009, 04:54 AM	#7
Deja Vu Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 61	Mark H. What do you think of your Is144? I've sailed the Is133 and find that it is one board that is actually better than the hype! How does our IS144 compare to the big JP Slalom V and some of the other big light wind slalom boards? Sorry for the off topic post, but I'm really curious.

14th August 2009, 06:53 PM	#9
MacTS New Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 16	Thank´s for the answers Kevin!