Extensions - Streamlined vs Neil Pryde X6 MXT/UXT - Page 4

davide · 8th January 2011, 04:29 AM

If you want the ultimate extension check out the new Hotsails Maui. Cast base, integrated cleat, made in 4 different materials: aluminum, composite, carbon or titanium (!). Aluminum collar, spectra line, 30 or 45 long, Euro or US with a very smart adaptor. I have a streamlined but the HSM seems to be a much better design.

http://www.hotsailsmauishop.com/extensions-1.aspx

http://www.hotsailsmaui.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3026

MarcoM · 8th January 2011, 04:51 PM

I have the streamline (RDM and SDM). I am very happy with it. My biggest sail for the SDM is a North RAM 9.0. I have no problems for downhauling. For the RDM my biggest sail is a ICE 5.7 also no problems here. Up till now I used a prolimit mast base but just bought myself also a mast base from streamline. It looks very solid. and what I like about it, you can replace parts very easily.

9th January 2011, 06:51 AM

switched to streamline euro pin in RDM and SDM 5 years ago, used with race sails up to 11 m2, few other guys I know use them with 12m2 with no problems; for salt water, sandy beach the simplicity and durability of streamline is un matched in my opinion... NP looks very pretty but you need their mast foot and downhaul crank doesn't fit...

nonopr · 9th January 2011, 05:24 PM

NeilPryde X6 still the best so far for me. No problems after two years. No other have the pulleys in the correct angle.
There is no need to use a crank now days for any good design sail. Sails Designers have lover the tension in their sails. I see a lot of people using cranks and they all broke their pulleys in the sail due to over cranking that crap.
No problem with sand or saltwater in two years and I dont even wash the part in fresh water after using it. By far the best.Neilpryde X6.

9th January 2011, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by nonopr

NeilPryde X6 still the best so far for me. No problems after two years. No other have the pulleys in the correct angle.
There is no need to use a crank now days for any good design sail. Sails Designers have lover the tension in their sails. I see a lot of people using cranks and they all broke their pulleys in the sail due to over cranking that crap.
No problem with sand or saltwater in two years and I dont even wash the part in fresh water after using it. By far the best.Neilpryde X6.

Yup, downhaul tension is lower than it used to be and I know lots of people that downhaul by hand,
BUT it's still LOTS of pressure on your lower back specially if you shift your body in the wrong
angle by accident during rigging, so I still strongly believe never to downhaul without a crank and most
people at my beach feel the same... I'm not saying that streamline is what you have to buy, there're many
good choices, but you dude sound like a NP rep... not cool, people ask for objective advice

Windman · 10th January 2011, 03:57 AM

For what it’s worth.

Have used the euro pin NP X3 since its introduction in 1999 and now have 6 of them (allowing multiple sails to be rigged at the same time) ranging in extension sizes from 28 to 48cm and covering sail sizes from 4.2 to 9.8m.

Only problem to date is that the downhaul line occasionally catches a rivet inside the extension tube and you have to “jiggle” the line as you are trying to get it out of the extension during derigging.

I agree with others that a change to Formuline substantially reduces the effort needed to downhaul to max specs and I also occasionally squirt a dry silicon lubricant onto the rollers of the extension and the sail to reduce the effort even more. Whilst I have closely investigated the new X6, it offers no benefit to me, at this stage.

Still have 3 older-model V8’s with the large luff curves and I MUST USE a downhaul crank to get them to maximum downhaul. Must disagree with Sergio K (post #33) in that:

- I use a mix of mast feet (F2, NP, ProLimit) to connect to the mast extension.

- My Chinook downhaul crank fits perfectly in my X3 extensions, see it here: http://www.chinooksailing.com/produc...roducts_id=290.

Segio, I know that nonopr uses Maui Sails and their products extensively and contributes extensively to the Maui Sails forum. He is not a NP rep.

Hope this helps.

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8th January 2011, 04:29 AM	#31
davide Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 248	If you want the ultimate extension check out the new Hotsails Maui. Cast base, integrated cleat, made in 4 different materials: aluminum, composite, carbon or titanium (!). Aluminum collar, spectra line, 30 or 45 long, Euro or US with a very smart adaptor. I have a streamlined but the HSM seems to be a much better design. http://www.hotsailsmauishop.com/extensions-1.aspx http://www.hotsailsmaui.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3026

8th January 2011, 04:51 PM	#32
MarcoM Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Netherlands Posts: 25	I have the streamline (RDM and SDM). I am very happy with it. My biggest sail for the SDM is a North RAM 9.0. I have no problems for downhauling. For the RDM my biggest sail is a ICE 5.7 also no problems here. Up till now I used a prolimit mast base but just bought myself also a mast base from streamline. It looks very solid. and what I like about it, you can replace parts very easily.

9th January 2011, 06:51 AM	#33
sergio k Guest Posts: n/a	switched to streamline euro pin in RDM and SDM 5 years ago, used with race sails up to 11 m2, few other guys I know use them with 12m2 with no problems; for salt water, sandy beach the simplicity and durability of streamline is un matched in my opinion... NP looks very pretty but you need their mast foot and downhaul crank doesn't fit...

9th January 2011, 05:24 PM	#34
nonopr Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: San Juan, Puerto Rico Posts: 572	NeilPryde X6 still the best so far for me. No problems after two years. No other have the pulleys in the correct angle. There is no need to use a crank now days for any good design sail. Sails Designers have lover the tension in their sails. I see a lot of people using cranks and they all broke their pulleys in the sail due to over cranking that crap. No problem with sand or saltwater in two years and I dont even wash the part in fresh water after using it. By far the best.Neilpryde X6.

10th January 2011, 03:57 AM	#36
Windman Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 37	For what it’s worth. Have used the euro pin NP X3 since its introduction in 1999 and now have 6 of them (allowing multiple sails to be rigged at the same time) ranging in extension sizes from 28 to 48cm and covering sail sizes from 4.2 to 9.8m. Only problem to date is that the downhaul line occasionally catches a rivet inside the extension tube and you have to “jiggle” the line as you are trying to get it out of the extension during derigging. I agree with others that a change to Formuline substantially reduces the effort needed to downhaul to max specs and I also occasionally squirt a dry silicon lubricant onto the rollers of the extension and the sail to reduce the effort even more. Whilst I have closely investigated the new X6, it offers no benefit to me, at this stage. Still have 3 older-model V8’s with the large luff curves and I MUST USE a downhaul crank to get them to maximum downhaul. Must disagree with Sergio K (post #33) in that: - I use a mix of mast feet (F2, NP, ProLimit) to connect to the mast extension. - My Chinook downhaul crank fits perfectly in my X3 extensions, see it here: http://www.chinooksailing.com/produc...roducts_id=290. Segio, I know that nonopr uses Maui Sails and their products extensively and contributes extensively to the Maui Sails forum. He is not a NP rep. Hope this helps.