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Old 20th June 2012, 05:27 PM   #31
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"Considering numbers of people windsurfing and kiting, both should be on Olympics.
11th June 2012 08:33 PM "

That is sheer nonesense.

90% of windsurfers have never raced and never will. Problem has always been the windsurfing in Olympics has virtually no resemblence whatsoever to the sport nearly all of us are involved with.

Racing is an esoteric small aspect of windsurfing.Olypic racing is a small part within that.

The image portrayed in olympic WS is probably detrimental . Its hardly exciting and does not attract anyone into the sport;unless they specifically want to race... WS racing in Olympics has become a sport in itself and promotes itself just for the Olypics.. Look at the farce over the RSX.. Who would ever dream of sailing one if were not for the Olypics !!! Crazy.. Its a circular argument.. IMO its the correct decision..
If we could get wave sailing in or even freestyle ; well that would be a step forward.
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Old 21st June 2012, 07:47 AM   #32
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hi unregistered,

much smaller percent of car drivers of the world racing in Formula1 or in Rally, than percentage of windsurfers, who racing. and?

the influence of the top of a sport is always big. if a sail company's competitor win the pwa slalom tour, next year circa 30% can increase his sales volume of race/freerace sails. the freestyle or wave able to bring circa extra 10%.

the olympic windsurfing's value is huge number of people meet with windsurfing, who never meet with it any other way. the hungarian london olympic competitor girl's father is olympic bronz medalist sailor. he pushed her daughter not for sailing, but for windsurfing, because physically much more sporty and cheaper too.

the olympic games makes possible to get money from the states and teach kids for windsurfing. from these kids will be only one per nation on the olympic games, the rest will be hobby windsurfers, pwa riders, or from pwa will be olympic riders. lots of people who move from pwa to olympic (mainly girls), or move from olimpic to pwa like svein rasmussen, stephan van den berg, jimmy diaz, brian talma, anders bringdal, thomas malina, barbara kendal, alassandra sensini, jessica crisp, etc.

i think the olympic windsurfing has his mission in the windsurfing sport, just different from the pwa or hobby windsurfing.

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Old 21st June 2012, 08:30 AM   #33
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I'm not an expert but all this thing about windsurf out and kite in seems to have something well known in Italy.
We call here MAFIA
That is to say a lot of fake reasons and probably a lot of hidden money.
The racing kitesurfers: I still haven't seen ONE here in Italy on the beaches and lakes where I sail!
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Old 21st June 2012, 08:33 AM   #34
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"the influence of the top of a sport is always big"

Thats exactly attitude that introduces bad feeling accross sport...

What other discipline would make such an assumption !!!

How on earth can any developments along lines of RSX help any wave sailors/slalom sailors etc...And F1 is totally self supporting financially; through sponsorship; TV rights and the benefits it brings to companies involved.
That as we all know is not the case with racing in WS. Nobody wants to watch it;the developments it brings benefits just those involved and it does not reflect anything to do with rest of sport.

The withdrawal of WS from Olympics is just part of the demise generally assocxiated with racing in WS. It will affect nobody except those racing...Precious few. (read other threads; examine board sales !!!)
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Old 22nd June 2012, 12:19 PM   #35
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I`ve been windsurfing 30 years.I sail regularly and visit many popular sailing venues throughout Europe.I have not witnessed a race or spoken to anyone that races in the past 20 years.

An unreg poster mentioned that 90% of windsurfers dont race.. Suspect its nearer 99%.. Go down to any local sailing club in UK and there will be dinghies racing every summer sunday.. There will be no windsurfers. They will be at nearest coast if and only if its over F4.The kit they will be on has nothing in common with racing kit (long boards/RSX/Formula) and virtually none of them will have ever have taken part in any sort of organised race..

Why should kit be developed purely for the use of a precious few "racers" essentially paid for by the mass majority of sailors who have no intention of ever racing ??? (Essentially the RSX ; which will simply not sell and has been a complete waste of time now.
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Old 23rd June 2012, 08:05 AM   #36
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Most people doing sport donít compete, at least not in Olympic format. So real nonsense is to say some sport should not be on the Olympic Games just because competition form was adapted. In this case most Olympic sports should not be on Olympics.
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Old 23rd June 2012, 04:58 PM   #37
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But loads of people already do athletics/gymnastics etc etc outside Olympics.. Few race and even fewer race Olympic class WS. The ones that do do so purely for Olympics... Folk only bought RSX in an effort to make Olympics !!!

99% of windsurfers could not care less wether its in Olympics or not... Loads of sports get by without Olympic status .Course Racing has nothing to do with windsurfing anymore... (Or perhaps windsurfing has nothing to do with course racing)
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Old 9th August 2012, 07:37 AM   #38
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here is some words from Mr. Neil Pryde what is his oppinion about the olympic changes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...Eg8EQ6XCc&NR=1

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Old 9th August 2012, 01:36 PM   #39
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... and the same in french :

http://www.ouest-france.fr/sport/dma...ils_filDMA.Htm

Cheers & keep fingers crossed !

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Old 9th August 2012, 09:36 PM   #40
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The only Finnish medal so far has been the silver medal from women's RS-X, so this has brought windsurfing into the spotlight of the Finnish media & public. A Finn voted against RS-X in Rio, but there is now quite a lot of pressure to change that vote in November.
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