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Old 20th August 2013, 08:02 AM   #1
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Default Ultrasonic 147 <-> Falcon 134 in 12-17 kots

A couple of days ago, me and my friend were out in 12-17 knots on a spot full of lulls.
My friend on his Falcon 134 (82 wide) + 8.6 NP RS:Slalom and me on the US147 + 8.8 Gun MXS.

We did a few back-to-back figure-8 slalom races, but my friend really had no chance.
I was always first onto the plane and handled the lulls far better which resulted in better pointing and getting first at the buoys, all the time.

I've also tried his gear and I noticed that the Falcon felt much smaller under the feet. Logically, I suppose, because of the smaller dimensions of the board.
On the reach and slightly down wind, I felt that I was faster on the falcon.

In a PWA type of slalom race - i.e. all the time slightly down wind and not too many lulls - I probably would not have had a chance.

It just points out the difference of these types of boards and their usage.
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Old 20th August 2013, 09:11 AM   #2
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yeah, butt i would like to see the results of the same "race" in 16 to 20 knots !!
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Old 20th August 2013, 05:48 PM   #3
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Whole different ball game.

Probably the Falcon would perform better.

But these are conditions in which I would go for my IS122 +8.8 or even 7.8, depending on how gusty and choppy it would be. Mind that I'm not a professional racer.

I don't want to speak bad of the Falcon because I think it's also a really good board, probably comparable with the IS127.
I just wanted to point out that in light air conditions, it's sometimes better to be on a wider board with a bigger fin, depending on the course you want to do. If it would have been a typical Formula course race track, no doubt that a Formula would win the race.

Most of us fun riders do a reaching course, jibe and return to their starting point where they will jibe again.
It's actually a figure-8 course and there is always a bit of pointing involved. In light air I see so many times people take off on "too small" gear with a dazzling speed and then later have difficulties and need to slog back to their starting point.
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Old 20th August 2013, 10:39 PM   #4
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It's not hard to believe. The US147 is easily competitive against 82 and 85 wide slalom boards, especially in the 8-14 knot range. Many of the sailors in yesterdays PWA event in Turkey would have been more than happy to have been allowed to use one instead of struggling out of the gybes!
In 16-20 knots certainly 8.6 and 68-76 wide boards will be faster. Time to change the rules and allow such big slalom boards before PWA slalom disappears in venues where the wind could be 8-14knots
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Old 21st August 2013, 09:11 PM   #5
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I fully agree that something needs to be done with the PWA slalom. So far this year they have only been able to complete a few eliminations, and they are sailing in almost impossible conditions. When allowing starts in only 8 knots wind they need to allow bigger boards to ensure planing through the whole course.
Now it is simply no fun to follow, as in many cases it seems to be a lottery if they get into plane after each jibe.
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I fully agree that something needs to be done with the PWA slalom. So far this year they have only been able to complete a few eliminations, and they are sailing in almost impossible conditions. When allowing starts in only 8 knots wind they need to allow bigger boards to ensure planing through the whole course.
Now it is simply no fun to follow, as in many cases it seems to be a lottery if they get into plane after each jibe.
I think some of the sailors are also to blame. Look at the equipment list for 2013 and in many cases you see sailors having registered smaller/narrower boards(+/- 80cm and 110-130lit ) as their light wind choice. They complain and want heats cancelled when they can't plane in a crowd.
Bjorn and Finian have their heads screwed on, as they have 9.6/9.3 and 10/9.4 sails registered respectively. Now only if they were allowed 90+ wide boards to make the most of those sails.

It's no wonder sponsors become harder to find when the chances of a non event are high as equipment rules are biased towards higher winds.
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Old 22nd August 2013, 05:36 PM   #7
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Yes, another day without (just not enough) wind in Alacati.
Frustrating.
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Old 23rd August 2013, 05:22 PM   #8
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Hi All,

I am in Alcati right now and we just have a discussion on this last night and for sure if PWA racers have boards until 95cm wide they will races with no problems yesterday and the day before still with 10.0 max.
Time is to change.

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