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Old 3rd June 2011, 03:32 PM   #41
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ok thank you. so, in conclusion, what fin would be best for me for my 5.0, with a 130lt (67cm wide) board and 75kg weight (i really can only afford one)?
As I was thinking, with 130 litre/5,0 Fin explorer answers "KEIN FINNEN!!!!!"
But if you set 115 lt board you get this:

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Freeride 115 L (109-119)
Segelgrösse 5,0m²
75 kg Körpergewicht
Flachwasser Freeride

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Ride 28.0 New
Free Move 11.8''/30.0


With Wizzard I used to sail the 5,3 in good balance with a 32, but I'm heavier, so for you a fin around this size could work. Simply ask a friend to lend you a freeride fin 28, 30 or 32, like the ones provided with FSW boards (that many riders have in central Italy) and try it to feel if riding with it is ok, and THEN look on ebay or in stores near you.
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Old 3rd June 2011, 04:20 PM   #42
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Hi Nicolo, if you also want to use that fin with your 6.2 in well powered conditions, then I would not go under 32/34. It might be on the large side for your 5.0 but your board is large too. 30cm may work but the gap with your 42 will be huge, unless you plan to fill it with a 36cm in the future.
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Old 3rd June 2011, 09:29 PM   #43
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Unregistered, Nicolo

I think there is validity to all that both of us have to say. The original question was - is the 42 cm fin too large for Nicolo and I still say no. Does he need a second fin? - Yes at some point. If his is planing on a 5.0 in 20+ knots of wind, then the 42 will be too large. What we still don't know is where Nicolo is skill wise and my assumption is that he is NOT blasting around in 20-25 knot winds, but is in the early stages of planing and managing the footstraps and harness as he is planing. I may be wrong, but only Nicolo can fill us in.

I see no need to start matching fins with sails for Nicolo until he tells us where he is with his sailing skills. For example:

Using a 6.5 sail in 5-15 knots, not planing or in the straps or harness.
Or
Using a 6.5 sail in 10-15 knots, planing some and trying to get into the straps, not hooked in.
Or
Using a 6.5 sail in 15-20 knots, in the straps and harness, trying to make carving jibes. Learning water starts
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Using a 5.0 sail in 20-25 knots, in the straps and harness, making some carving jibes and water starting.

You asked that I stick a 48cm fin on a 63ish wide board. For a few years, I raced a Bic Techno 283 (69cm wide). I raced with three fins, a 54 cm in light winds with a 9.2 or 8.4 sail. I changed to a 52cm fin for my 7.6 and 6.6, then the stock 48cm on anything smaller down to a 5.0 on a few occasions. Races were course racing with plenty of upwind/downwind sailing. I needed the large fins for maximum upwind capability. I weigh 78kg.
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Old 3rd June 2011, 11:33 PM   #44
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im at the stage where i sail with 6.2 15-20 knots in the straps and harness, trying to make carve gybes and improving on waterstarts (not fully mastered it yet) AND on a 5.0 20-28 knots at the same point as with the 6.2 (i know 20-28 knots is quite a range for 1 sail but i learned to windsurf in a wind that did not go below 25 knots in gusts that went above 35 knots, so i am used to inconstant winds).
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Old 4th June 2011, 12:46 AM   #45
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nicolo,

Good to know your skill level, thanks. There are so many variables when trying to recommend equipment or help with skill development, it always important to know exactly where you are in your learning and skill development, what equipment you have and in what conditions you typically sail.

I found the free x 130 on line and it said it came with the 42cm fin. This board is designed for light to moderate winds (9.0 sail down to about 7.0). That is why the standard fin is a 42. Since your weight is somewhat light (72kg) this is a lot of board and fin for winds over 20 knots. In time when you can afford another board, you need to think about something around 100 liters. Enough to uphaul if necessary and good with sails from about 4 - 6 meters (however, this depends on the type of board - slalom, freeride or bump and jump).

Since you have one board for all conditions, a second fin is a good idea for winds over 18 knots. I would suggest something in the 34-36 cm range. If you go for a larger (7.5-8.5) sail at some point for the 12-18 knot winds, the 42cm fin will be perfect. Good luck.
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Old 4th June 2011, 01:29 AM   #46
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thank you, mark. yep im sure the next board i get will be smaller. the fact is that im not skilled enough to carry a board under 130 lt yet, but im sure in approximately 2 years i will go for a freerace board between 105 and 115 lt.
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Old 4th June 2011, 03:47 AM   #47
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Not so bad really your level.
Think about in 1997 when I was a beginner I used to go out in rough waves in Marina di Grosseto, few km north of Talamone, with my first board who was a Mistral Echo 298-138 litres; and I still was NOT able to use the footstaps!
Don't know your goals, but you've a lot of wave spots around home so in the future something wave oriented like an FSW could open you the nirvana of windsurfing, that here in the windless north east of Italy I can only dream about. But If your dream is to become a slalom racer, no question. Big good luck, a romano de Roma

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Old 4th June 2011, 05:00 AM   #48
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From your experiences you should know quite well what over finned feels like !!

No matter how we wrap it up; diagnose it; recount our experiences a 5 metre sail on a 67cm wide board will need a fin around 30 cm for best allround abilities / easy handling.
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Old 4th June 2011, 09:51 PM   #49
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Unregistered,

Look at the new Carve boards on this site:

111 - 66cm wide comes with a 38cm fin with a fin range of 34-40 with sails from 5.0 - 7.5.
121 - 68cm wide comes with a 40cm fin with a fin range of 36-42 with sails from 5.0 - 8.0.

This isn't apples to apples by any means, but a 30cm fin is extremely small for such a large board. I didn't look at the Carve before I suggested a fin around 34 - 36cm, but it seems to confirm my judgement.
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Old 5th June 2011, 02:56 AM   #50
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My comments were based on my experiences and not from reading a website ;which poster could have done !!

The ranges quoted by you are a guide and by no means represent ideal at either end of scale..

I use a board of similar size (68 wide actually) and have found by extended time on the water with a whole range of fins from 26cm through to 48 cm that for use with a 5 metre sail and in likely water conditions that brings a 30 cm fin would be (as I said in post ) a good place to start and would work fine.Way better than a 42cm.!!!

Infact in offshore winds at my venue I often rig big board/small fin . Board gives me reqd float if wind drops and smaller fin gives much better Vmax (what I`m looking for in offshore) and added control associated with a small fin.In flatish water its amazing both how fast and how much wind big (relative term) board can cope with ! I`ve had 36 knots (10 sec average) from Mistral Syncro 124 RD (68 cm wide) this week.; using a 5.7 and 32 cm fin !!! Have track logs aswell !! My best ever Vmax on 42cm fin is 32 knots !!! No doubt I could have sailed with 42cm fin fine but there`s no way my V max would have been 36 knots dragging a 42cm fin through water !!

Cant believe there is so much argument over an obvious fin choice !!! A 5 metre sail could use much less than a 30cm .The board in question isnt that big !!! It isnt a Formula !!!

And I answered question knowing board poster used was similar size to mine !!! I didnt look it up on some site !!!
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