New Formula 167 Wide - Page 5

Remi · 14th October 2011, 11:12 AM

Hi Bibi,

When condition is windy race director make generally the reach leg short, so the 167 Wide will be good. Up wind and down wind the board is Ok in windy condition, it's only the reach who can start be difficult.

All the best

bushfire.one · 14th October 2011, 06:46 PM

First sail on the 167W - light 8-12 knots wind, with small short sharp chop. Sail : 10.7m NP RSR (on its last legs!) I weigh about 78kg.

It took about 10 mins to get comfortable but then I had a great time.

Very happy with;

(1) The board planes very easily and is very good at going through the lulls.
(2) So sweet downwind! The wide outboard position of the back foot seems excellent for getting deep and just feels comfortable (remember the winds were light). The board slides very easily over the chop.
(3) The chicken strap heel recesses seem to be good but it wasn't windy enough to really try them out. Getting the foot into the chicken straps seems easy.
(4)The lift generated by the fin and the wide tail is very good and allows to heel the board quite easily. You know if you are not doing this right if your back heel gets hit with the chop!
(5) Gybing seems no different than my narrower tailed formula boards (this is good)
(6) The board planes with the nose well clear of the chop.

I found that after about an hours sailing I had better performance by holding my weight a bit further aft than I was used to on other boards - I guess the wide tail carries weight better and allows the board to fly more efficiently.

All in all very positive first impressions - obviously a lot more tuning required (fin testing etc) but I'm very confident this board is a winner.

psicowind · 17th October 2011, 03:04 PM

Hi bushfire, i am psicowind from italy, i wish order one 167 but im very confused, 167 or 167 wide???, i am 78 kg and go with NP evo 3 10,7, fin Zeta , in 8-18knots.
I like your 167w test in light wind, but i wish know how the 167w go in 12-18 knots????
And if is better than hwr in start of planning???
Remi said ,go to 167w , but i am afraid that is very hard in 12-18 knots of wind???

Please help me!!!!!!!!!!

thanks

psicowind

bushfire.one · 17th October 2011, 04:25 PM

Hi psicowind,
I can't comment on the 167, because I haven't seen it, but I am very impressed with the 167 Wide. The windiest I used it in is only 15 knots, and it is surprisingly very easy to use - easy to get planing, great downwind and points very high. As you can read from Jesper's comments on the home page here the board is quite a big step forward from previous models. I'm about your weight and I reckon you can't go wrong with choosing the 167W as your board for this season.

psicowind · 18th October 2011, 01:38 PM

Thank bushfire, i go to 167W!!!!!!

pfaffi · 19th October 2011, 03:38 PM

Hi bushfire!
What fin you used?
What was your previous board? Do you use that fin in there? And in the previous you was happy with that fin?
BR
pfaffi

bushfire.one · 19th October 2011, 06:12 PM

Hi pfaffi,
Most people who have bought a 167W in this area are using a VMG M73 fin (VMG fins are made in Sydney,Australia by Chris Ting). This fin was originally developed for the HWR but seem to work really well in the 167W. Chris is currently looking at testing some new fin ideas using the 167W.
My previous board was a SB 162 using a VMG K70 fin. This fin is probably not powerful enough for the 167W.

(sorry Remi - I'm not trying to hijack your forum!!

)

Remi · 19th October 2011, 11:11 PM

Hi Bushfire,

No problems

enjoy the beast

All the best

pfaffi · 20th October 2011, 10:51 AM

Hello bushfire!
Thanks for answer!
In my experiance the 162 needed more powerful fin than HWR. If you tell 167w needs more powerful fin than 162 conclusion is that 167w needs much much more powerful fin than HWR. Correct?
How wide is the cutted Tip of your reco fin in mm ( I expect round 60 to 70mm)??
Cheers pfaffi

nonopr · 20th October 2011, 07:11 PM

Reports so far in regard fins are that the same fin used in the HWR are been used with success in the 167W.
So far i have read 73-3, 72-2, 74-4, lets wait until the Professionals talk.
Jesper V used Kashy lets ask him what size.

14th October 2011, 11:12 AM	#41
Remi STARBOARD DEVELOPMENT Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Thailand Posts: 2,339	Hi Bibi, When condition is windy race director make generally the reach leg short, so the 167 Wide will be good. Up wind and down wind the board is Ok in windy condition, it's only the reach who can start be difficult. All the best __________________ Rémi Can answer if you have any questions on this following boards : Carve 111, 121, 131, 141, 151 & 161 Futura 93, 101, 111, 121, 131 & 141. iSonic 80, 87, 90, 97, 107, 110, 117, 127 & 137 To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. UltraSonic 147 Formula Experience One Design Phantom Race 377/320 To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Phantom 295 : To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Formula 167 & 167 Wide : To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Racing Serinity Cat Concept To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

19th October 2011, 06:12 PM	#47
bushfire.one New Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Wollongong, NSW, Australia Posts: 11	Hi pfaffi, Most people who have bought a 167W in this area are using a VMG M73 fin (VMG fins are made in Sydney,Australia by Chris Ting). This fin was originally developed for the HWR but seem to work really well in the 167W. Chris is currently looking at testing some new fin ideas using the 167W. My previous board was a SB 162 using a VMG K70 fin. This fin is probably not powerful enough for the 167W. (sorry Remi - I'm not trying to hijack your forum!!)

19th October 2011, 11:11 PM	#48
Remi STARBOARD DEVELOPMENT Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Thailand Posts: 2,339	Hi Bushfire, No problems enjoy the beast All the best __________________ Rémi Can answer if you have any questions on this following boards : Carve 111, 121, 131, 141, 151 & 161 Futura 93, 101, 111, 121, 131 & 141. iSonic 80, 87, 90, 97, 107, 110, 117, 127 & 137 To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. UltraSonic 147 Formula Experience One Design Phantom Race 377/320 To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Phantom 295 : To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Formula 167 & 167 Wide : To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Racing Serinity Cat Concept To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Switch to Hybrid Mode Switch to Threaded Mode

Similar Threads
Thread	Thread Starter	Forum	Replies	Last Post
IS 117 wide vs IS 121	mn.le.clercq	French Forum	2	15th August 2011 04:58 PM
Isonic 107 vs 117 vs 117 wide	Hugues	French Forum	19	5th June 2011 03:43 PM
isonic 117 wide ore 137	andre 1966	Ask Our Team	2	28th April 2011 12:07 PM
iSonic 117 Wide vs 127/131	NIG	Ask Our Team	8	31st January 2011 06:16 PM
Select R03 DC Wide 70 Medium for Formula 161	michelb	Free Forum	0	14th April 2009 09:42 PM

14th October 2011, 06:46 PM	#42
bushfire.one New Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Wollongong, NSW, Australia Posts: 11	First sail on the 167W - light 8-12 knots wind, with small short sharp chop. Sail : 10.7m NP RSR (on its last legs!) I weigh about 78kg. It took about 10 mins to get comfortable but then I had a great time. Very happy with; (1) The board planes very easily and is very good at going through the lulls. (2) So sweet downwind! The wide outboard position of the back foot seems excellent for getting deep and just feels comfortable (remember the winds were light). The board slides very easily over the chop. (3) The chicken strap heel recesses seem to be good but it wasn't windy enough to really try them out. Getting the foot into the chicken straps seems easy. (4)The lift generated by the fin and the wide tail is very good and allows to heel the board quite easily. You know if you are not doing this right if your back heel gets hit with the chop! (5) Gybing seems no different than my narrower tailed formula boards (this is good) (6) The board planes with the nose well clear of the chop. I found that after about an hours sailing I had better performance by holding my weight a bit further aft than I was used to on other boards - I guess the wide tail carries weight better and allows the board to fly more efficiently. All in all very positive first impressions - obviously a lot more tuning required (fin testing etc) but I'm very confident this board is a winner.

17th October 2011, 03:04 PM	#43
psicowind New Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 8	Hi bushfire, i am psicowind from italy, i wish order one 167 but im very confused, 167 or 167 wide???, i am 78 kg and go with NP evo 3 10,7, fin Zeta , in 8-18knots. I like your 167w test in light wind, but i wish know how the 167w go in 12-18 knots???? And if is better than hwr in start of planning??? Remi said ,go to 167w , but i am afraid that is very hard in 12-18 knots of wind??? Please help me!!!!!!!!!! thanks psicowind

17th October 2011, 04:25 PM	#44
bushfire.one New Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Wollongong, NSW, Australia Posts: 11	Hi psicowind, I can't comment on the 167, because I haven't seen it, but I am very impressed with the 167 Wide. The windiest I used it in is only 15 knots, and it is surprisingly very easy to use - easy to get planing, great downwind and points very high. As you can read from Jesper's comments on the home page here the board is quite a big step forward from previous models. I'm about your weight and I reckon you can't go wrong with choosing the 167W as your board for this season.

18th October 2011, 01:38 PM	#45
psicowind New Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 8	Thank bushfire, i go to 167W!!!!!!

19th October 2011, 03:38 PM	#46
pfaffi Member Join Date: Jan 1970 Location: Austria - Lake Neusiedler, closed Vienna Posts: 136	Hi bushfire! What fin you used? What was your previous board? Do you use that fin in there? And in the previous you was happy with that fin? BR pfaffi

20th October 2011, 10:51 AM	#49
pfaffi Member Join Date: Jan 1970 Location: Austria - Lake Neusiedler, closed Vienna Posts: 136	Hello bushfire! Thanks for answer! In my experiance the 162 needed more powerful fin than HWR. If you tell 167w needs more powerful fin than 162 conclusion is that 167w needs much much more powerful fin than HWR. Correct? How wide is the cutted Tip of your reco fin in mm ( I expect round 60 to 70mm)?? Cheers pfaffi

20th October 2011, 07:11 PM	#50
nonopr Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: San Juan, Puerto Rico Posts: 572	Reports so far in regard fins are that the same fin used in the HWR are been used with success in the 167W. So far i have read 73-3, 72-2, 74-4, lets wait until the Professionals talk. Jesper V used Kashy lets ask him what size.