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Old 14th October 2011, 11:12 AM   #41
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Hi Bibi,

When condition is windy race director make generally the reach leg short, so the 167 Wide will be good. Up wind and down wind the board is Ok in windy condition, it's only the reach who can start be difficult.

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Old 14th October 2011, 06:46 PM   #42
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First sail on the 167W - light 8-12 knots wind, with small short sharp chop. Sail : 10.7m NP RSR (on its last legs!) I weigh about 78kg.

It took about 10 mins to get comfortable but then I had a great time.

Very happy with;

(1) The board planes very easily and is very good at going through the lulls.
(2) So sweet downwind! The wide outboard position of the back foot seems excellent for getting deep and just feels comfortable (remember the winds were light). The board slides very easily over the chop.
(3) The chicken strap heel recesses seem to be good but it wasn't windy enough to really try them out. Getting the foot into the chicken straps seems easy.
(4)The lift generated by the fin and the wide tail is very good and allows to heel the board quite easily. You know if you are not doing this right if your back heel gets hit with the chop!
(5) Gybing seems no different than my narrower tailed formula boards (this is good)
(6) The board planes with the nose well clear of the chop.

I found that after about an hours sailing I had better performance by holding my weight a bit further aft than I was used to on other boards - I guess the wide tail carries weight better and allows the board to fly more efficiently.

All in all very positive first impressions - obviously a lot more tuning required (fin testing etc) but I'm very confident this board is a winner.
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Old 17th October 2011, 03:04 PM   #43
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Hi bushfire, i am psicowind from italy, i wish order one 167 but im very confused, 167 or 167 wide???, i am 78 kg and go with NP evo 3 10,7, fin Zeta , in 8-18knots.
I like your 167w test in light wind, but i wish know how the 167w go in 12-18 knots????
And if is better than hwr in start of planning???
Remi said ,go to 167w , but i am afraid that is very hard in 12-18 knots of wind???

Please help me!!!!!!!!!!

thanks

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Old 17th October 2011, 04:25 PM   #44
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Hi psicowind,
I can't comment on the 167, because I haven't seen it, but I am very impressed with the 167 Wide. The windiest I used it in is only 15 knots, and it is surprisingly very easy to use - easy to get planing, great downwind and points very high. As you can read from Jesper's comments on the home page here the board is quite a big step forward from previous models. I'm about your weight and I reckon you can't go wrong with choosing the 167W as your board for this season.
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Old 18th October 2011, 01:38 PM   #45
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Thank bushfire, i go to 167W!!!!!!
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Old 19th October 2011, 03:38 PM   #46
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Hi bushfire!
What fin you used?
What was your previous board? Do you use that fin in there? And in the previous you was happy with that fin?
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Old 19th October 2011, 06:12 PM   #47
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Hi pfaffi,
Most people who have bought a 167W in this area are using a VMG M73 fin (VMG fins are made in Sydney,Australia by Chris Ting). This fin was originally developed for the HWR but seem to work really well in the 167W. Chris is currently looking at testing some new fin ideas using the 167W.
My previous board was a SB 162 using a VMG K70 fin. This fin is probably not powerful enough for the 167W.

(sorry Remi - I'm not trying to hijack your forum!!)
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Old 19th October 2011, 11:11 PM   #48
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Hi Bushfire,

No problems enjoy the beast

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Old 20th October 2011, 10:51 AM   #49
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Hello bushfire!
Thanks for answer!
In my experiance the 162 needed more powerful fin than HWR. If you tell 167w needs more powerful fin than 162 conclusion is that 167w needs much much more powerful fin than HWR. Correct?
How wide is the cutted Tip of your reco fin in mm ( I expect round 60 to 70mm)??
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Old 20th October 2011, 07:11 PM   #50
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Reports so far in regard fins are that the same fin used in the HWR are been used with success in the 167W.
So far i have read 73-3, 72-2, 74-4, lets wait until the Professionals talk.
Jesper V used Kashy lets ask him what size.
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