New Formula 167 Wide - Page 8

NED136 · 20th December 2011, 12:28 AM

@ Troll,

Cut down: p.e. 75cm fin cut down to 70 cm - tip of the 75 cm fin, 5 cm is removed.

@ paffi:
I sailed some more sessions: still like the 70 cm virus fin a lot. The 167wide is very good in early planning. Especially when the water is flat the board is really quick and easy to sail in every direction. In very steep high chop and high winds (18+ knots) it becomes a lot more technical / difficult probably because of the carbon / stifness and the wide of the board (although when I look at the pic of Sean... I won't complain about choppy conditions any more ;-) ).

I think that the direction is that in Formula Windsurfing competition you more or less need to boards, depending on conditions. One very wide like the 167w for 7 - 20 knots, and one for choppy, high wind conditions (161 or 167?).

nonopr · 22nd December 2011, 04:10 AM

Question to Remi or anyone that has already tested his 167 wide.
Where should I put the footstarps? front holes or back holes???
Thanks

NED136 · 23rd December 2011, 01:44 AM

Hi nonopr, I have them in the back holes. For me this is the best setting with the wind / water conditions so far. Be sure to tighten the screws of the chicken straps a lot as they otherwise twist very easily during sailing which makes it harder to put your foot in.

Remi · 23rd December 2011, 06:30 AM

Hi Nonopr,

This is personal set up and depend of racers style.

In light to medium wind I put all of them in the back with a Virus 70 (normal one), and when the wind get over 20 knots, I put all of them in front with the same fin and also move the mast base in front by 1/2cm depend how much wind you get and choppy water.

This board in my opinion don't need very powerfull fin to deliver great performances in light winds. Actually use one fin for all conditions and deliver performances really higher than HWR & LWR.

Try this set up, it might work if you have the same style as me

Hope this help

Remi · 23rd December 2011, 06:31 AM

Hi Nonopr,

This is personal set up and depend of racers style.

In light to medium wind I put all of them in the back with a Virus 70 (normal one), and when the wind get over 20 knots, I put all of them in front with the same fin and also move the mast base in front by 1/2cm depend how much wind you get and choppy water.

This board in my opinion don't need very powerfull fin to deliver great performances in light winds. Actually use one fin for all conditions and deliver performances really higher than HWR & LWR.

Try this set up, it might work if you have the same style as me

Hope this help

ducze · 23rd December 2011, 11:13 PM

Hi Remi,

Does the new board 167W comes with the fin?

Greg

nonopr · 23rd December 2011, 11:42 PM

No fin with these boards.

nonopr · 23rd December 2011, 11:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NED136

Hi nonopr, I have them in the back holes. For me this is the best setting with the wind / water conditions so far. Be sure to tighten the screws of the chicken straps a lot as they otherwise twist very easily during sailing which makes it harder to put your foot in.

Thanks for the recommendation NED 136 . I notice this already whe I screw in the straps. I had some extra K9 Anti-twist plugs and solve that problem.
Dont know why they did not include more of those with the board. Small details make a better product.

nonopr · 23rd December 2011, 11:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Remi

Hi Nonopr,

This is personal set up and depend of racers style.

In light to medium wind I put all of them in the back with a Virus 70 (normal one), and when the wind get over 20 knots, I put all of them in front with the same fin and also move the mast base in front by 1/2cm depend how much wind you get and choppy water.

This board in my opinion don't need very powerfull fin to deliver great performances in light winds. Actually use one fin for all conditions and deliver performances really higher than HWR & LWR.

Try this set up, it might work if you have the same style as me

Hope this help

Thanks Remi.

ducze · 24th December 2011, 02:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nonopr

No fin with this boards.

Thank You Nonopr
Have great Xmas

Greg

23rd December 2011, 06:30 AM	#74
Remi STARBOARD DEVELOPMENT Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Thailand Posts: 2,340	Hi Nonopr, This is personal set up and depend of racers style. In light to medium wind I put all of them in the back with a Virus 70 (normal one), and when the wind get over 20 knots, I put all of them in front with the same fin and also move the mast base in front by 1/2cm depend how much wind you get and choppy water. This board in my opinion don't need very powerfull fin to deliver great performances in light winds. Actually use one fin for all conditions and deliver performances really higher than HWR & LWR. Try this set up, it might work if you have the same style as me Hope this help __________________ Rémi Can answer if you have any questions on this following boards : Carve 111, 121, 131, 141, 151 & 161 Futura 93, 101, 111, 121, 131 & 141. iSonic 80, 87, 90, 97, 107, 110, 117, 127 & 137 To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. UltraSonic 147 Formula Experience One Design Phantom Race 377/320 To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Phantom 295 : To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Formula 167 & 167 Wide : To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Racing Serinity Cat Concept To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

23rd December 2011, 06:31 AM	#75
Remi STARBOARD DEVELOPMENT Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Thailand Posts: 2,340	Hi Nonopr, This is personal set up and depend of racers style. In light to medium wind I put all of them in the back with a Virus 70 (normal one), and when the wind get over 20 knots, I put all of them in front with the same fin and also move the mast base in front by 1/2cm depend how much wind you get and choppy water. This board in my opinion don't need very powerfull fin to deliver great performances in light winds. Actually use one fin for all conditions and deliver performances really higher than HWR & LWR. Try this set up, it might work if you have the same style as me Hope this help __________________ Rémi Can answer if you have any questions on this following boards : Carve 111, 121, 131, 141, 151 & 161 Futura 93, 101, 111, 121, 131 & 141. iSonic 80, 87, 90, 97, 107, 110, 117, 127 & 137 To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. UltraSonic 147 Formula Experience One Design Phantom Race 377/320 To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Phantom 295 : To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Formula 167 & 167 Wide : To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Racing Serinity Cat Concept To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

23rd December 2011, 11:42 PM	#77
nonopr Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: San Juan, Puerto Rico Posts: 572	No fin with these boards. Last edited by nonopr; 24th December 2011 at 06:07 AM.

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20th December 2011, 12:28 AM	#71
NED136 New Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 18	@ Troll, Cut down: p.e. 75cm fin cut down to 70 cm - tip of the 75 cm fin, 5 cm is removed. @ paffi: I sailed some more sessions: still like the 70 cm virus fin a lot. The 167wide is very good in early planning. Especially when the water is flat the board is really quick and easy to sail in every direction. In very steep high chop and high winds (18+ knots) it becomes a lot more technical / difficult probably because of the carbon / stifness and the wide of the board (although when I look at the pic of Sean... I won't complain about choppy conditions any more ;-) ). I think that the direction is that in Formula Windsurfing competition you more or less need to boards, depending on conditions. One very wide like the 167w for 7 - 20 knots, and one for choppy, high wind conditions (161 or 167?).

22nd December 2011, 04:10 AM	#72
nonopr Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: San Juan, Puerto Rico Posts: 572	Question to Remi or anyone that has already tested his 167 wide. Where should I put the footstarps? front holes or back holes??? Thanks

23rd December 2011, 01:44 AM	#73
NED136 New Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 18	Hi nonopr, I have them in the back holes. For me this is the best setting with the wind / water conditions so far. Be sure to tighten the screws of the chicken straps a lot as they otherwise twist very easily during sailing which makes it harder to put your foot in.

23rd December 2011, 11:13 PM	#76
ducze New Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 9	Hi Remi, Does the new board 167W comes with the fin? Greg