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Old 22nd September 2011, 05:12 AM   #1
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Question Sail Range /Sailor weight

What effect does sailor weight have on a board`s sail range ???

The Kode 113 gives a sail range of 5.2 to 8.5... I`ve sailed it (and thinking of buying one) but cant see how I could use it with an 8.5. ??? But my weight is 103 kg ???
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Old 22nd September 2011, 08:17 PM   #2
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Hi Floyd,
I'd had three of these now and currenlty have the 2011 113. All felt exactly the same to me even though the last had some minor changes. Weigh I'm 89 but was 92 at worst. I never go bigger than 7.4 with a 40 cm MFC Liquid move in it. I get this going in a true 12-13 ktns ( wind meter measured ). We have small swell to help get it away, it wouldn't go that well in dead flat water. As for a bigger sail I haven't tried but to me the 7.4 does feel very comfortable. ( NP Excess ). It could easily be bigger. The only thing that may change and be not so good is using cams. The board as you would have noticed is surprisingly manoverable and is twitchy when fully up and running. You won't be disappointed using 7.4 that is for sure. I would say up another 0.5m would still be good, but like every board they have a sweet spot. The 7.4 for the volume under your feet is the money size. I have used 6.4 and 6.1 but always change boards soon after to 100 ltr as the is much better with a 6m sail
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Old 22nd September 2011, 09:56 PM   #3
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Hi Floyd, are you the same 103 Kg guy looking for a Kode 113 in the other post? What I've heard about recommended sail range is that heavyweights can cope with min sizes in strong winds but will struggle with max sizes in low winds. The reverse for lightweights. It is not clear whether the sail range covers both heavy & light sailors or shall be offset by let's say 0.5 m˛. Anyway I find this one quite optimistic: 5.2 to 8.5 means a massive wind range for any single board.
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Old 22nd September 2011, 11:05 PM   #4
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Heavyweights can use longer and more poweful fin. This allow use bigger sail on same board.

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Old 23rd September 2011, 02:43 AM   #5
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What effect does sailor weight have on a board`s sail range ???

The Kode 113 gives a sail range of 5.2 to 8.5... I`ve sailed it (and thinking of buying one) but cant see how I could use it with an 8.5. ??? But my weight is 103 kg ???
Hi,

I've a 105 kg pal who has a Kode 112 & an 8.5 m2 sail. However, he never uses his 8.5 sail on that board because the board felt way too small with such a large sail for his weight. He uses 5.6-7.0 m2 sail range on his Kode 112 (stock 38 cm fin). The Kode 112 is a full sinker for his weight: forget about uphauling the sail in a lull. Wind range is about 25-35+ knots for him.

He uses a Carve 162 (+80 cm wide) with a 7.5/8.5/9.0 m2 sail (stock 52 cm fin; wind range 15-25+ knots), and an Ultrasonic 147 with a 9.0 m2 (stock 58 cm fin) or 11 m2 sail (race 62 cm fin); wind range 10-20+ knots.

Cheers !

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Old 23rd September 2011, 03:17 AM   #6
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What I've heard about recommended sail range is that heavyweights can cope with min sizes in strong winds but will struggle with max sizes in low winds. The reverse for lightweights. It is not clear whether the sail range covers both heavy & light sailors or shall be offset by let's say 0.5 m˛. Anyway I find this one quite optimistic: 5.2 to 8.5 means a massive wind range for any single board.
You are correct. The recommended sail range listed here is for a medium/75 kg weight rider and I agree this wind range will fit the bill for a light weight rider without any problems. Althought I never tried the Kode 113, I used to have a 2001 Carve 111 (63 cm max width; 40 cm width OFO). Min sail was a 5.4 m2 + 25 cm fin (wind range 20-25 knots) whereas max sail was an 8.2 m2 + 40 cm fin (wind range : 11-15 knots), althought the recommended sail range was 4.8-7.2 m2. The board felt way too large with a 4.7 m2 sail in 25-30 knots for my 65 kg weight.

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Old 28th September 2011, 05:21 PM   #7
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It would be nice to hear from a designer what the rule of thumb is with respect to sail range. It does not replace actual real life testing but would be a nice start point.

Reading this and other post, I would suggest:

95 kg: - 10% on both min and max sail
60 kg: + 10% on both min and max sail

Rémi, Tiesda, does this makes sense?
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