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Old 11th March 2015, 07:44 PM   #1
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Current boards are 2009 is111, 2010 is117w, 2012 Futura141. Sails all NCX 6.0, 7.0, 8.0, 9.0. I weigh 76kg. My son also occasionally sails and he's around 55-60kg. Most of the time we sail on a lake but occasionally on the sea and will do more. Wind on the lake is very good as its next to the Thames estuary.

I'm thinking of changing the is111 for a Futura 111. Will the F111 give a more controlled ride on the sea and in chop and be better suited to my 6.0. Will there also be less overlap with the F111/is117w than with the is111/is117w combo at the moment? Will the F111 take the 8.0? And how much more stable/floaty does the F111 feel especially for tacking?

Also, should the F141 go, although it is a great light wind board, but perhaps should now go and maybe fund another smaller (Futura?) board. Only problem then is if we are both out on a light wind day although my son should get away with the F111 as a light wind board
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Old 12th March 2015, 01:52 AM   #2
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Hi Mudskipper,

Ncx sails will feet better the Futura shape and recommend you the 2015 models as their are a huge increase in control and use the same iSonic rocker line to get the best performances as possible. They are as fast as iSonic but comfort on top with better jibe.
Then I recommend you to go for the Futura 114 for your use and of course tacking will be much more easier than iSonic as they are more longer and more volume in this area.

Hope this help

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Old 12th March 2015, 06:29 AM   #3
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Would the F104 not be the better option if I do choose a 2015 board as it would increase the wind range I could sail in. I do have a 5.5 but not an NCX, a Gator. I could get a 5.5 NCX if prefered. But I don't want a board any less sinky/stable than the is111 I have. With 7 litres less volume but most probably a more even volume distribution would the 104 uphaul/slog with my 76kg? And if so would the F104 be easier in these areas for when the wind does drop off.

Also, I want to keep the is117w as its a superb board and it works well for me even with the NCX's. But can it really act as my light wind board instead of the F141? I don't think it can but that could then possibly be put down to the NCX sails.
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Old 12th March 2015, 08:05 AM   #4
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Hi Mudskipper

In this case yes, I was thinking that you want to replace your 2 curent boards.

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Old 21st March 2015, 10:43 AM   #5
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Also, I want to keep the is117w as its a superb board and it works well for me even with the NCX's. But can it really act as my light wind board instead of the F141? I don't think it can but that could then possibly be put down to the NCX sails.
I also own an iS117W and use it mainly with 7.7, 8.6 and 11 m2 sails. Fins are 40, 44 and 54 cm, respectively.
The iS117W is a very nice light wind blaster, providing you've got the right sail and fin combo. She's very quick to start and sustain the planing in very low wind range, but you'll need very good pumping skils and, most importantly, she needs a low wind sail tuning to boost her performance in low wind range.

I would suggest you try your NCX 9.0 m2 sail with let's say a 48 cm fin. Try downhauling and outhauling the sail with -1 cm less, then with - 2cm less than usual so you can feel more power and grunt with a less loose leech.

The largest Futura that you own would be more easy to start and sustain the planing in lighter wind (longer lenght, more volume in the nose) and would requires much less physical energy spending than the iS117W. It all comes down to your choice between a racing car or a sport car...

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Old 23rd March 2015, 05:48 AM   #6
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Thanks both for your advice. I got myself a 2013 F111 as it was a bargain :-)

So I now have F111, iS111, iS117w and F141. It allows me and my son to sail or if I'm on my own I can have the choice to be lazy with a Futura if the wind is marginal or I'm getting tired.

First impression of the F111 is very good, so easy to sail and that was with an 8.0 NCX. Looking forward to giving it a blast in 7.0 conditions
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