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Old 9th April 2012, 10:51 AM   #21
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How about SB make a good 97 then? Cause from what I've heard the current one is a bit snap happy! haha

OR, better still fuse the I90 with the I97, to create the I93.5, but it needs 100L I reckon, so not to confuse anyone we'll call it a I100.

It will be 63 wide, with a 43 Pin tail.

This is a board made exclusively for a 6.7/7.0m sail.

Why, well 7.8/107 rocks, 6.2/87 rocks, don't make me write the rest.....
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Old 9th April 2012, 01:46 PM   #22
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Yes,

it makes you wonder what's wrong with the 97 ?
Is it only the rocker line which is not flat enough, compared to the 107 ?
Or is it the Flat Vee to Double convave that makes the 107 king of the game ?
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Old 10th April 2012, 01:19 PM   #23
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I wouldn't say the 97 is not a good board ... it's just radically different to the 107.

As Starboard has so many sizes in their iSonic range, you can't really approach them as being just 'scaled-down versions' of each other. The 97 isn't just a smaller version of the 107 ... each board has a unique rockerline and design concept (as you can see by the differences in vee/concaves etc from board to board), and is built for a certain condition (or rider) ... hence why there is 3 small boards all within 10L of each other... Maybe one for Bjorn, one for Cyril and one for Steve?

A lot of guys here in AUS really like the 97 ... I didn't mind mine. I just found the 107 rides a lot flatter in nuking conditions compared to the 97 and I only get on my 107 when it's +20 knots so the high-wind control was all I was interested in ... That being said I also heard a bunch of people say the 107 rides too flat! haha.

There's a board for everyone I guess ;-)
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Old 10th April 2012, 10:45 PM   #24
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GHAA! didnt want to hear that about the 97, i just got one, since they where out of stock on 107 carbon!

I tried a 111WC and really liked it, with the nose staying down int the gusts. so i got a 97 to go down to from my 127 carbon.
I´m 190 and 85kg and have 9,3 7,6 6,7 and 6,0 vapors for my isonics.
Well hope to try the 97 soon... will not get it to this guys speed, but still hope it will be good

http://www.gps-speedsurfing.com/defa...74371&uid=1438

Almost 40kn on a 97 with 7.8 is impressive in my opinion.
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Old 11th April 2012, 03:35 AM   #25
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haha, hope I haven't scared anyone off the 97!

The 97 is still a really fast board! I just meant that I found the 107 keeps riding flatter than the 97 does in terms of the trim. I'm sailing on open ocean with decent sized waves and chop, so nose trim is very important to me to give control! I'm also a bit shorter and slightly lighter than you Kapten K, so you might not even have the problem I've described!

Also fins will make a difference to the nose trim ... I'm using Z-fins and Debs in my boards ... haven't tried anything else!

PS, 40 knots with a 7.8m is impressive on ANY board!
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Old 11th April 2012, 08:41 AM   #26
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I also sail in waves and chop, but most of the season we have massive weeds here in sweden, so i use a weed fin, and it really suxs compared to a Deb or select or any other good fins.
Maybe a 97 will get me more lift with the weedfin. But weedfins tend to make the boards sail even more nose up.
Every body trim so differently, and sails and how you tune them also affect board trim.
Looking foward to test my 97, i guess it will be less tail-walk prone than my old manta 68 anyway.

I know than i can get the nose down, by moving mastfoot foward, lowering boom, use less outhaul, and moving lines back on the boom, but i dont want to kill all speed when ovwerpowerd.

Thanks for the fin tips Sean! I´m a big fan of your webpages!

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Old 11th April 2012, 09:26 AM   #27
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no worries Kapten, I really like the 97 (wood). It's for sure faster then the previous 101, due to more control in higher winds. The downside is that the 2010 101 was able to handle bigger sails more easily, imho. Not sure why, maybe it's because of the dome deck and/ or lesser volume.

It's just as Sean says; the 107 and 97 are really different boards in terms of shape, but it does not mean the 97 all of a sudden isnt' good, on the contrary! I really like the 97 powered up with a 6.2/ 6.7/ 7.2 much more then the 107. But when the wind is less strong and constant, I prefer the 107 with 7.2 and certainly with the bigger sails 7.8/ 8.4.
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Old 11th April 2012, 08:29 PM   #28
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Btw, my 107 2012 has got a regular tuttlebox and not a deep tuttle box. Are the specs on this site incorrect?
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Old 12th April 2012, 12:52 AM   #29
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Hi Kwda

The first 2012 models come with simple Tuttle and after with deep tuutle after a request from very heavy Pwa racers to go full on in 25 knots with 8.6.

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Old 12th April 2012, 12:59 AM   #30
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Hi Kapten K

We launch since some month a totally new Drake line : Ready to Race line. After my trip in Maui and test with Pwa riders is extremely positive. You may have a look to them.
Specially design for iSonic for outline and flex.
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