Characteristics Starboard Start 2003 - Page 2

jpon2 · 2nd September 2011, 05:21 AM

It's U100100169

Roger · 2nd September 2011, 06:56 AM

Hi jpon,
Hmmmm.... that would make it a 2002 board, manufactured @ Cobra on October 1st, 2000.
Does your board have a square stern or a more rounded stern.
The boards with the squared off stern cam out one year before the Starts with the rounder
stern.
I don't have my Starts here, but I will look at them this weekend.
I have one that's a 2001 model (I think) with the squared off stern, and one that's a 2002
model with the rounder stern, bit I need to check.
I may also be able to pull the shapes out of an old catalogue as well as the center fin config.
We will get to the bottom of this soon!
Roger

jpon2 · 3rd September 2011, 03:28 PM

The very tip of the stern is not visible in this pic and I don't have time to run to the storage where I keep it but it might be enough. Here is another picture showing the whole board

rod_r · 4th September 2011, 03:18 PM

my money is on 2001. the centre fin shape is 2001 but it's black, not white
another way to tell...the 2001 was 13kg, the 2002 was 14 kg

jpon2 · 5th September 2011, 07:15 AM

This guy seems to be doing OK with it http://youtu.be/rdkPwRWW91s You can even see the center fin at some point.

Roger · 5th September 2011, 08:33 AM

Hi jpon2
Yes. the beach boys at the Windsurfing Place in Bonaire are truly amazing.
I think that's Caesar Finies.... he's very good, but there's another beachboy that's even
more amazing.
You have to realize that the water where he's doing these tricks is < 12" deep,
to the fins both touch the bottom some of the time.
I looked at your photo.
You can use the OEM center fin if you like, but it will slow your progress.
Also, you need to move the footstraps back on the board, or take them
off until you are ready to start planing.
The board will pretty much resist planing off easily if you are as far
forward as you have the footstraps (in the "trainer" positions as far forward
as possible).
You need to be further back on the board to elevate the front of the planing
surfaces before your Start will plane easily.
Also, the all the way forward footstrap position is in my opinion somewhat
dangerous.
If you drop the rig, and your foot is in the footstrap right next to the mast, you
may crush your foot inside the footstrap.
Using the same Start you have, in hundreds of lessons all over the USA, we never
allowed anyone on the board with the footstraps up forward... for liability reasons.
I disagree with Rod, I think your Start is indeed a 2002 built in late 2001.
The center fin Rod_r is suggesting (white in color) is not offset like yours.
The 2002/2003 Starts used variations of what you have.
They didn't work so we cut them off or better still, used the 41 cm Start
fin as the center fin and put a 38 cm True Ames Stubbie in the rear.
That gave the board much better maneuverability and solves some of
the issues using very small trainer sails.
Roger

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2nd September 2011, 05:21 AM	#11
jpon2 Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Long Island Sound, Jersey Shore, Hudson River, USA Posts: 32	It's U100100169

2nd September 2011, 06:56 AM	#12
Roger Dream Team - School Guru Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 2,060	Hi jpon, Hmmmm.... that would make it a 2002 board, manufactured @ Cobra on October 1st, 2000. Does your board have a square stern or a more rounded stern. The boards with the squared off stern cam out one year before the Starts with the rounder stern. I don't have my Starts here, but I will look at them this weekend. I have one that's a 2001 model (I think) with the squared off stern, and one that's a 2002 model with the rounder stern, bit I need to check. I may also be able to pull the shapes out of an old catalogue as well as the center fin config. We will get to the bottom of this soon! Roger

3rd September 2011, 03:28 PM	#13
jpon2 Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Long Island Sound, Jersey Shore, Hudson River, USA Posts: 32	The very tip of the stern is not visible in this pic and I don't have time to run to the storage where I keep it but it might be enough. Here is another picture showing the whole board

4th September 2011, 03:18 PM	#14
rod_r Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Auckland, New Zealand Posts: 68	my money is on 2001. the centre fin shape is 2001 but it's black, not white another way to tell...the 2001 was 13kg, the 2002 was 14 kg

5th September 2011, 07:15 AM	#15
jpon2 Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Long Island Sound, Jersey Shore, Hudson River, USA Posts: 32	This guy seems to be doing OK with it http://youtu.be/rdkPwRWW91s You can even see the center fin at some point.

5th September 2011, 08:33 AM	#16
Roger Dream Team - School Guru Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 2,060	Hi jpon2 Yes. the beach boys at the Windsurfing Place in Bonaire are truly amazing. I think that's Caesar Finies.... he's very good, but there's another beachboy that's even more amazing. You have to realize that the water where he's doing these tricks is < 12" deep, to the fins both touch the bottom some of the time. I looked at your photo. You can use the OEM center fin if you like, but it will slow your progress. Also, you need to move the footstraps back on the board, or take them off until you are ready to start planing. The board will pretty much resist planing off easily if you are as far forward as you have the footstraps (in the "trainer" positions as far forward as possible). You need to be further back on the board to elevate the front of the planing surfaces before your Start will plane easily. Also, the all the way forward footstrap position is in my opinion somewhat dangerous. If you drop the rig, and your foot is in the footstrap right next to the mast, you may crush your foot inside the footstrap. Using the same Start you have, in hundreds of lessons all over the USA, we never allowed anyone on the board with the footstraps up forward... for liability reasons. I disagree with Rod, I think your Start is indeed a 2002 built in late 2001. The center fin Rod_r is suggesting (white in color) is not offset like yours. The 2002/2003 Starts used variations of what you have. They didn't work so we cut them off or better still, used the 41 cm Start fin as the center fin and put a 38 cm True Ames Stubbie in the rear. That gave the board much better maneuverability and solves some of the issues using very small trainer sails. Roger