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Old 5th January 2008, 02:40 AM   #11
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Topic is growing fast..good!!!

It's interesting to know the price differences and though there are several con-causes it's bad to know here in Europe we pay sensibily more for the same product than in the rest of the world..

Maybe import taxation.. who knows..
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Old 9th January 2008, 01:10 AM   #12
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Gosh in Thailand they're very cheap indeed! around 900 € for a new wood board!
But if you consider the board themself are made in Thailand you can say: well it could be..
Well if you check their site a Carbon Art slalom board is a mere 1.010 EUR in NZ...

I think that transport costs do mean a lot on such large fragile items. Also national distributors probably do add a lot. In '06 I asked KA sail to quote me a two Koncept quiver and they made me a nice price (delivered to my door, including shipping and taxes). I didn't decide immediately. After some time they agreed with Speeding for distribution in Italy, so when I asked them to confirm prices they told me to refer to Speeding instead. I expected to have a better deal, thanks to more efficient shipping (a lot of sails in a container, instead of just my two sails by plane)... but discounted price from importer were higher instead. This by the way convinced me that selling on the web and shipping to the customer is the way to go. And this also proves that importers do not add efficiency to the market (did they stock at least!)
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Old 9th January 2008, 10:44 AM   #13
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I think the fall in the US dollar is not yet reflected in the prices. I think the individual stores, distributors and the manufacturers establish their contracts months before the equipment gets in the stores. If the dollar value stays down all of us in USA may wish we had purchased a new board early in 2008.
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Old 9th January 2008, 04:45 PM   #14
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Hi geo, (ti scrivo in inglese così è per tutti! ), I don't belive it's a matter of shipping..
I mean, excluding Thailand, the shipping charge to Europe or USA or Canada wouldn't be much different but the retail prices are!

And second, try to ask prices just outside our country: you could get a boad for -300€ from our discount price and that's not due to transport at all!
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Old 9th January 2008, 10:18 PM   #15
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Ciao Alex,

you are right; after all express shipping is just EUR 180 on a single board from NZ (CA: 1,010.00 there and 1,190.00 shipped to airport here). So we are left with the other suspect: maybe importers do earn too much? My experience dealing with KA Sails says "yes".
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Old 11th January 2008, 05:55 PM   #16
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Brand new 2008 Wood iSonic in Sweden costs € 1.360 or $ 1.920 or £ 1.000.
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Old 12th January 2008, 08:50 PM   #17
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Default Marketing hype: since you bring it up...

> problem every non-professional windsurfer...
> we all want (dream..) to have the newer stuff 'cause we've been told
> they're fastermuch easier to use, you won't miss a planning jibe, etc..

> Obviously there's a lot of marketing in that enthusiastic statements
> but that's another point.. But afterall why not: we're like children with
> toys sometimes!

Sorry, but you do bring it up...

Your introduction is as important as the topic itself: there's not a lot of marketing, it's ALL marketing hype. You know, the "200x board reviews" in magazines, "go a lot faster if you buy the new ...", etc.

I'm sure it makes a diff for pros for which we see the pics at the top of this (manufacturer) forum, but for the other 99.9% that sail on lakes and shores?? No it doesn't.

Furthermore, I don't want a board or pay for that is faster for them in races or speed world records, but on which I personally may or may not go .1 knot faster, for the very specific conditions for that very particular brand new gear. Next thing you know, one needs to buy a trailer to carry all that gear.

And I don't want yet a new sail or board that will make my jibes easier. (Knowing too that the year after will be a brand new gear that will make my jibes yet easier.) I've seen plenty of videos of pros that can jibe very well thank you with 2005 and 2002 and 2006 gear. Therefore it must be possible - after all, they make it look easy, and I want to work at it on my gear that is only 2-3 years old and improve at it. I've seen little improvment in the sail skills of those who renew the "quiver" year after year.

Sorry for the rant - again - and I know it's not the gist of this topic. But we're trying to promote our wonderful sport and fun sailing, as opposed to gear buying. That's me.

Cheers all and happy 2008.

PS: back to the thread, all brand new gear is expensive in them's parts, period.
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Old 19th January 2008, 09:54 PM   #18
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In Singapore - 2008 iSonic USD 1550 /-
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