2007/08 North Sails Monofilm Quality - Page 3

JJay · 14th February 2008, 04:05 PM

Hey Matt, I'm jealous!!!! sunny and 18knots!!!!!!
overcast and 2 knots here.

No need to get so down. All you need to do is set your XT 2cm longer than you would normally, then downhaul as usual. By setting the Xt longer you will release much of the excess tension. This should make downhauling the Ram (a bloody good sail) as easy as any other sail. The problem is only with the cleat position on the extension, not the sail. To rig the rope effectively for this particular extension I ,,,,,,,,,,

1 Feed downhaul rope knotted at one end through the center hole, starting at the end with the aluminium washer. (the knot should now be stopped against the washer)

2 When i'm ready to start rigging, I look down and should see the knot which stops my rope sliding through the center of the extension looking up at me. The rest of the cord is falling out of the center of the grey roller at the other end, away from me.

Sail- 3 I take the cord and feed it through the CENTER pulley on the sail, from UNDER first back up towards me.

Ext- 4 Then I feed the cord DOWN through the the TOP roller (the one closest to the aluminium washer) MAST SIDE/or closest to the mast, then back up to the sail pulley.

Sail-5 Now I thread the cord through the LEFT side pulley on the sail starting from above or over then DOWN away from me. (not from under to over)

Ext- 6 Now I thread the cord DOWN through the SECOND or middle pulley on the XT starting on the backside of the pulley then feeding it up the MAST side of the pulley.

Sail-7 nearly there,,,,,,,, Now thread the cord through the sail pulley that is closest to the mast, starting from underneath first, coming out towards you,,,, then straight down into the cleat.

You are probably already doing it this way, but I thought maybe this might help someone somewhere.

Ok, on second thoughts, it would be a miracle if anyone can understand this complicated mess..

So here's a simple recap,

sail = 1st middle roller under to over.
2nd left roller over to under.
3rd right roller (closest to mast) under to over.

Ext = 1st down into mast side of top roller, then up far side.
2nd down into far side of second roller, then up mast side

Damn, explaining this online is much harder than i thought.

Anyway, no need to get frustrated, just,,,,,,,,,

relax and go fast!!!!!!!

JJay · 14th February 2008, 04:09 PM

Beg, borrow or steal another extension and get planing ASAP.

I8 knots and sunny!!!!!!!!!

RELAX & GO FAST

matt12 · 14th February 2008, 06:10 PM

Haha that was funny JJay!

I think I will read it slowly step-by-step when I have my RAM out on the lawn. I ended up getting out on the 6.2m for an hour so all was not lost!

I'll take some photos of the saw-extension next time I rig the RAM as well and they try to post them here. Probably tomorrow.

JJay · 14th February 2008, 09:12 PM

Glad to hear you got out on the water.

Seriously, it took a few of us about a week of arguing over the right and wrong way to thread that #*+kin& extension. It quite literally drove me insane. But I assure you the sawing effect can be minimized with this rigging method and a few extra cm's of extension. So don't give up on North just yet.

Photos will help, so i'll keep an eye out for your pic's.

relax'n'gofast

matt12 · 15th February 2008, 03:59 PM

Here's a photo but with such a small file size limit new North Sails extension ...'The Saw' .... may not be very clear.

The distance between pulleys is the minimum whilst I am still able to download fully. So the sail ends up sitting about 10cm higher on the board than what it should!

JJay · 15th February 2008, 07:01 PM

Hi Matt, can see your pic only as a thumb. Don't know what i'm doing wrong but can't open the image. Can't quite make out how it's threaded. Can someone tell me how to open this image?

Jjay

AlexWind · 15th February 2008, 07:58 PM

Simply go here..

http://www.star-board.com/forum/atta...1&d=1203069503

JJay · 15th February 2008, 08:10 PM

Hi AlexWind, I keep getting a vBulletin message asking me to login!?
Have logged in about 50 times! Still get the same page coming back up.

JJay · 17th February 2008, 09:29 AM

Still can't open the full sized image. Sorry Matt. Hope you could de-cypher, and try my system.

Relax and Go Fast.

AlexWind · 17th February 2008, 08:56 PM

Oh.. we'll make this work!

http://www.cdsliguria.it/misc/dscn3986a.jpg

14th February 2008, 04:05 PM	#21
JJay Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 31	Quick fix Hey Matt, I'm jealous!!!! sunny and 18knots!!!!!! overcast and 2 knots here. No need to get so down. All you need to do is set your XT 2cm longer than you would normally, then downhaul as usual. By setting the Xt longer you will release much of the excess tension. This should make downhauling the Ram (a bloody good sail) as easy as any other sail. The problem is only with the cleat position on the extension, not the sail. To rig the rope effectively for this particular extension I ,,,,,,,,,, 1 Feed downhaul rope knotted at one end through the center hole, starting at the end with the aluminium washer. (the knot should now be stopped against the washer) 2 When i'm ready to start rigging, I look down and should see the knot which stops my rope sliding through the center of the extension looking up at me. The rest of the cord is falling out of the center of the grey roller at the other end, away from me. Sail- 3 I take the cord and feed it through the CENTER pulley on the sail, from UNDER first back up towards me. Ext- 4 Then I feed the cord DOWN through the the TOP roller (the one closest to the aluminium washer) MAST SIDE/or closest to the mast, then back up to the sail pulley. Sail-5 Now I thread the cord through the LEFT side pulley on the sail starting from above or over then DOWN away from me. (not from under to over) Ext- 6 Now I thread the cord DOWN through the SECOND or middle pulley on the XT starting on the backside of the pulley then feeding it up the MAST side of the pulley. Sail-7 nearly there,,,,,,,, Now thread the cord through the sail pulley that is closest to the mast, starting from underneath first, coming out towards you,,,, then straight down into the cleat. You are probably already doing it this way, but I thought maybe this might help someone somewhere. Ok, on second thoughts, it would be a miracle if anyone can understand this complicated mess.. So here's a simple recap, sail = 1st middle roller under to over. 2nd left roller over to under. 3rd right roller (closest to mast) under to over. Ext = 1st down into mast side of top roller, then up far side. 2nd down into far side of second roller, then up mast side Damn, explaining this online is much harder than i thought. Anyway, no need to get frustrated, just,,,,,,,,, relax and go fast!!!!!!!

14th February 2008, 04:09 PM	#22
JJay Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 31	On second thoughts Beg, borrow or steal another extension and get planing ASAP. I8 knots and sunny!!!!!!!!! RELAX & GO FAST

17th February 2008, 09:29 AM	#29
JJay Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 31	Still no luck Still can't open the full sized image. Sorry Matt. Hope you could de-cypher, and try my system. Relax and Go Fast.

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14th February 2008, 06:10 PM	#23
matt12 Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 47	Haha that was funny JJay! I think I will read it slowly step-by-step when I have my RAM out on the lawn. I ended up getting out on the 6.2m for an hour so all was not lost! I'll take some photos of the saw-extension next time I rig the RAM as well and they try to post them here. Probably tomorrow.

14th February 2008, 09:12 PM	#24
JJay Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 31	Glad to hear you got out on the water. Seriously, it took a few of us about a week of arguing over the right and wrong way to thread that #*+kin& extension. It quite literally drove me insane. But I assure you the sawing effect can be minimized with this rigging method and a few extra cm's of extension. So don't give up on North just yet. Photos will help, so i'll keep an eye out for your pic's. relax'n'gofast

15th February 2008, 07:01 PM	#26
JJay Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 31	Hi Matt, can see your pic only as a thumb. Don't know what i'm doing wrong but can't open the image. Can't quite make out how it's threaded. Can someone tell me how to open this image? Jjay

15th February 2008, 07:58 PM	#27
AlexWind Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 166	Simply go here.. http://www.star-board.com/forum/atta...1&d=1203069503

15th February 2008, 08:10 PM	#28
JJay Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 31	Hi AlexWind, I keep getting a vBulletin message asking me to login!? Have logged in about 50 times! Still get the same page coming back up.

17th February 2008, 08:56 PM	#30
AlexWind Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 166	Oh.. we'll make this work! http://www.cdsliguria.it/misc/dscn3986a.jpg