Old 4th October 2006, 08:44 PM   #21
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I'm sorry,I've forgotten to say thet it was written in Exocet English forum.
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Old 4th October 2006, 08:48 PM   #22
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It doesn't mean too much but:
The first 161 was 6th and this is the guy that has been winning the series for the past 3-4 years... go figure form that!!!
It might just mean that he hasn't had time to get the board dialled/trimmed/finned properly yet though. Hard to say, most people I think would aggree that the 160 is better than the 159, but you still se good racers on the 159 finishing very well - probably one reason for this is that they know the board very very well by now. It could also mean that the 161 is a cockup like the TT05, which also tested really well before production, though I don't think so. I'd kinda like to what happens once the best sailers get a few months on the board and gets fin quivers and trim dialled.
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Old 5th October 2006, 07:23 AM   #23
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do I understand you right, that you use with the 161

up to 15 knots: R19S-- rake +8
over 15 knots: R13M+ rake +8

Which is the 70cm (!!) fin to use with the Apollo?

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Hi Denis,

Yes it's my favorite fins and the best one for the Apollo at the 70cm limit size is the R 19 soft -- rake + 8cm. But the best one for this board is the R 13 75 soft -- rake + 8cm

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Old 5th October 2006, 09:41 AM   #24
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You can't read to much into the weekend's results. The boards arrived on Friday, and no one had powerful enough fins to use with them. The Drake is not on par with custom fins

Saturday had very difficult short sharp chop and 20 knots. Not the best conditions for tuning a new board, nevertheless, 161's had many finishes in the top 5.

Where was the Exocet?????

The results and reports are on

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Old 5th October 2006, 09:50 AM   #25
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ok, so these 'results' we're actually talking about were the first event in Sydney for the Australian season. Not everyone had their 161's at this stage, and most had just unwrapped them that morning.

My 160 is on a ship somewhere between Holland and Sydney and my 161 was in a truck somewhere between Sydney and my house. So I used the 159 with R19 S- that weekend. Sweeeeeeeeet fin. The 159 is still a sweet board. Sweet enough to win 6 out of 8 races by a bit, which is why the 161's were a little way behind in the results.

Have had a little while to sail the 161 this week. Remi is right on the money; an R19 is definitely what you want for this board. Makes the board considerably more stable and pointing incredibly high (and suprisingly with the size of this fin, its motoring downwind). So far that's all I've tried with as my fins haven't arrived back from Europe yet... but I'm confident in saying already this is the best starboard formula board I've sailed by far!
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Old 5th October 2006, 07:40 PM   #26
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Sorry, but what are the specifications of the stock fin which comes with the 161?
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Old 6th October 2006, 07:40 AM   #27
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Hi Raffing,

The stock fin is a copy of the Deboichet R 19 soft -- rake + 8cm.

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Old 6th October 2006, 03:25 PM   #28
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Hello Remi,
I am a bit confused now... In the second post you replied that "If you woild like to increase your performances in light wind again, go for the Deboichet Custom R19", so is this different than the stock fin?

My question is: Is the stock fin competitive for winds up to 15 knots or is it necessary to order another one?

Thanks for your input.

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Old 6th October 2006, 06:21 PM   #29
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Hi Raffig,

Yes a Custom fin from Deboichet who is a lot more expensive compare to the Stock fin is really better. It's depend of the material you use to make the fin. But for a stock fin the Drake is pretty good and work propely under 15 knots.


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Old 9th October 2006, 06:18 PM   #30
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...up to 15 knots: R19S-- rake +8
over 15 knots: R13M+ rake +8...

Hi Remi,

for us, normal racers, don't you think is a big issue for legs to keep board working with +8 rake fins in strong wind ?

I come from F2 and I really would like to switch to Starboard: is 161 more comfortable in windy condition, even with forwarded fins like +8 R13?

And what do you expect in terms of pointing angle with same fin but at +6 rake, instead?

Many thanks.

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