Problem With footstrap box

windculture · 22nd March 2009, 07:59 AM

I have 2 boards starboard 2008, tighten the screw and the box was damaged,this happened on 2 boards.
I have starboard boards of other years and this never happened.
someone had the same problem?
how can I solve this problem without putting a new box?

Thanks

Pedro Lopes

nonopr · 22nd March 2009, 09:56 AM

Pedro que box hablas?

Roger · 22nd March 2009, 10:07 AM

Hi Windculture,
Check this link that describes the methodology and products to repair stripped
Footstrap screw inserts:
http://www.star-board.com/2009/pages...sst_repair.php
Scroll down to the bottom of the page and there's info on how to repair your
problem.
Also, try to find some of the '09 footstrap screws which are 32 mm long vs the
28 mm used on earlier boards.
Over the years, the "stack up" of the K-9 anti twist plates, tooth washers etc, used up too much of the screw length, so the longer screws are now provided with new boards.

Langdon · 26th March 2009, 04:24 PM

Unfortunately you can't get that Loctite thing everywhere.
Seems to be an easy way to solve it, but not if you can't get it

Anyone know if there's an alternative ?

Roger · 26th March 2009, 05:22 PM

Perhaps the Loc-tite kit is not available everywhere.
If you live in a country that has quite a few vehicles, go to either a large
auto/truck parts store or an industrial bearing supply store. They should have
this product or something very similar.
Also, I'm pretty sure you can buy it via the internet and have it shipped to
your doorstep.

ducati · 27th March 2009, 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Langdon

Unfortunately you can't get that Loctite thing everywhere.
Seems to be an easy way to solve it, but not if you can't get it

Anyone know if there's an alternative ?

Firstly fill the damaged hole with epoxy and redrill 4mm carefull with depth

I went to a specialised bolt supplier (not hardware shop) who just happen to have stainless steel self tappers with exactly the same thread pitch and slightly bigger in dia.
(very important don't use the finer pitch ones)
You'll have to cut them down to 35mm long
The SB ones are only 27mm long , the insert is 25mm deep, the footstrap and antitwist thingos are 16mm, leave 5mm clearance...........do da maths
Replace all 8 screws

JP actually supply 2x spare oversize screws with their boards (never had any probs with their inserts)

Why an excellent board manufacturer like Starboard lumber us with crap footstraps, wrong screws and crap fins is beyond me

28th March 2009, 05:47 PM

I know I`ve said it before but bonding to the plastic inserts is at best risky.(Does depend on platic used)The figures quoted by Loctite for thread repair are talking about bonding to metal.
A mechanical repair is better.ie oversized screws or some type of "rawl" plug.
Totally agree with last posters comments though ! Why does it happen in first place !
Good luck whatever you do !!

ducati · 3rd April 2009, 06:33 AM

SUPRISE SUPRISE look what I found

http://www.star-board.com/2009/pages.../designDev.php

don't know how long it's been there

Quote
"32mm FOOTSTRAP SCREWS
New longer footstrap screws for easier strap fitting
Increased pull-out resistance
Stronger screw head "
Unquote

Should have been 35mm (original problem ones was 27mm long)
Is starboard actually admitting they were wrong?
Shouldn't they be giving the screws free of charge to all who have had problems?
Feel sorry for those who took their bad/expensive advice (not me) and tried "Loctite"

Screamer · 3rd April 2009, 08:43 AM

Roger

What about permanently fixing the screw in the damaged hole? I know my preferred position for the footstrap and never change it. So if I fill the hole with 2-part epoxy resin and let it cure with screw in place, will it hold? (I've tried Permatex, but it didn't harden at all. Must be expiry date or bad storage)

Agree that all this doesn't contribute to brand image.

22nd March 2009, 07:59 AM	#1
windculture New Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 1	Problem With footstrap box I have 2 boards starboard 2008, tighten the screw and the box was damaged,this happened on 2 boards. I have starboard boards of other years and this never happened. someone had the same problem? how can I solve this problem without putting a new box? Thanks Pedro Lopes

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22nd March 2009, 09:56 AM	#2
nonopr Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: San Juan, Puerto Rico Posts: 573	Pedro que box hablas?

22nd March 2009, 10:07 AM	#3
Roger Dream Team - School Guru Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 2,065	Hi Windculture, Check this link that describes the methodology and products to repair stripped Footstrap screw inserts: http://www.star-board.com/2009/pages...sst_repair.php Scroll down to the bottom of the page and there's info on how to repair your problem. Also, try to find some of the '09 footstrap screws which are 32 mm long vs the 28 mm used on earlier boards. Over the years, the "stack up" of the K-9 anti twist plates, tooth washers etc, used up too much of the screw length, so the longer screws are now provided with new boards.

26th March 2009, 04:24 PM	#4
Langdon New Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 16	Unfortunately you can't get that Loctite thing everywhere. Seems to be an easy way to solve it, but not if you can't get it Anyone know if there's an alternative ?

26th March 2009, 05:22 PM	#5
Roger Dream Team - School Guru Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 2,065	Perhaps the Loc-tite kit is not available everywhere. If you live in a country that has quite a few vehicles, go to either a large auto/truck parts store or an industrial bearing supply store. They should have this product or something very similar. Also, I'm pretty sure you can buy it via the internet and have it shipped to your doorstep.

28th March 2009, 05:47 PM	#7
Unregistered Guest Posts: n/a	I know I`ve said it before but bonding to the plastic inserts is at best risky.(Does depend on platic used)The figures quoted by Loctite for thread repair are talking about bonding to metal. A mechanical repair is better.ie oversized screws or some type of "rawl" plug. Totally agree with last posters comments though ! Why does it happen in first place ! Good luck whatever you do !!

3rd April 2009, 06:33 AM	#8
ducati New Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 11	SUPRISE SUPRISE look what I found http://www.star-board.com/2009/pages.../designDev.php don't know how long it's been there Quote "32mm FOOTSTRAP SCREWS New longer footstrap screws for easier strap fitting Increased pull-out resistance Stronger screw head " Unquote Should have been 35mm (original problem ones was 27mm long) Is starboard actually admitting they were wrong? Shouldn't they be giving the screws free of charge to all who have had problems? Feel sorry for those who took their bad/expensive advice (not me) and tried "Loctite"

3rd April 2009, 08:43 AM	#9
Screamer Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 433	Roger What about permanently fixing the screw in the damaged hole? I know my preferred position for the footstrap and never change it. So if I fill the hole with 2-part epoxy resin and let it cure with screw in place, will it hold? (I've tried Permatex, but it didn't harden at all. Must be expiry date or bad storage) Agree that all this doesn't contribute to brand image.