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Old 6th November 2006, 09:50 PM   #11
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Je sais o?? il y a UNE F161 2007 dispo, et ?? moins de 1000 ???...
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Old 16th January 2007, 11:15 PM   #12
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Bonsoir,
samedi, j ai finalement essaye la 161.
Avec l'aileron Drake R19 elle va du tonnerre.
Je n ai jamais aussi bien remonte le vent, elle marche beaucoup mieux que la 160, elle sort beaucoup de l'eau;
par contre elle m a semble un peu plus technique.
En definitive une planche excellente.

J'ai aussi asseye avec le Deboichet R18 M+8

Impressions:
Le Drake decroche de temps en temps, il est semsible alla pression.
La planche a tendence a serpente sous les pieds.
Pas de decrochement avec le Deboichet, je le sens plus stable, mais on sent qu il est plus petit. Il remonte moins au vent.
La planche support surement un aileron plus important.
Un R19 +8 75cm coupe a 70cm ??

Demande a Remi
Je navigue en eau douce, il me semble que sur les lacs il convient d utilise des ailerons plus rigides qu en mer.
Mon fournisseur dit que les ailerons Deboichet existe seulement en version S M H.
Peut tu m explique quelles sont les differences en navigation.

merci d'avance pour les informations

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Old 17th January 2007, 04:20 PM   #13
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Bonjour Eddy,

Avec un peu d'habitude, tu pourra gerer sans probleme l'appui sur le Drake R19. Il te donnera plus de satisfaction que le R18. Ceci veint entierement du profil de l'aileron.

Si tu veut ameliorer encore plus tes perfs, procure toi un Deboichet R19 soft - - rake + 8cm, et la tu aura les parfs maxi de la planche aussi bien en mer qu'en eau douce.

Pour les "vrai" info pour les deboichet contact Oriana info@deboichetcustom.com

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Old 19th January 2007, 10:26 PM   #14
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Bonjour R??mi,
comme je veut acheter un Deboichet R19 soft-- rake+8,
j'ai un aileron Deboichet R18M+8 en trop.

Je d??sire savoir quel aileron je dois mettre sur le 161 lorsque j'utilise une voile de 8,5 mq par vent m??dium-forte (pour moi naturellement).

le Deboichet R18M+8 raccoursi de ...... cm ??
oubien le Drake R19 raccourci de ...... cm ??
auttre solution ........................

Merci d'avan??e pour la r??ponse. :)

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Old 20th January 2007, 02:45 AM   #15
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Bonjour Eddy,

Vu que cette planche est large, il n'est vraiment necessaire de mettre plus petit que 70cm en version Formula. Si c'est pour faire du slalom avec dans du vent fort cela peut se justfier en allant jusqu'a 66cm maxi.

Pour info tous les gamins qui font de la Formula Experience (F 160 Tufskin) qui navigue en 7.5 ; 8.5 ; 10 et 11m utilise le meme aileron soir le Drake R 13 70cm.

Je te recommande donc le R 13 medium rake + 6cm.

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Old 31st January 2007, 05:51 PM   #16
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salut Remi,

y aura t il une reelle difference dans du light - de 15 noeuds entre un R17 S et un R19,

savoir s'il faut r??element investir dans un R19

dans le vent g un r13 donc OK

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Old 1st February 2007, 05:18 PM   #17
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Bonjour Marcel,

Le R17 est tres insuffisant pour exploiter le shape de la F 161. Je te conseille vivement de te procurer un R 19 soft - - rake + 8cm.

Le probleme du R17 c'est qu'il ne cape pas suffisament et obtient le lift bien plus tard que le R 19, dans le light cela ne pardonne pas.

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Old 1st February 2007, 08:25 PM   #18
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Hi Remi,first of all thank you for your imputs.
Some more questions:
would you please tell us what will be the wind range/water state that the R17s matches best on the 161?
We all understand that R19S -- is THE ONE in very light wind but there are many 2006 R17 outhere that people would use as well so some your advice on it will be more than wellcome.
Anyway.
Regarding the R19 and wind till 15 kns :
don't you think the +8 cm will slow too much the board downwind?
What about "just" +6 ?
Is there some difference between "S" and "S--"?
How it get using a r19 M ? More higher range ?
Would you tell us what's the best choice (1 or 2 fins) for good trained weekend racers?
Thank you
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