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Old 4th June 2009, 04:09 AM   #11
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Helloo

The 122 is a very fast board and its flying with sails around 7.5..But the smallest should be 7.5 for that board

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Old 4th June 2009, 08:08 PM   #12
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I have is101 2007 and is122 2008.

I think that is122 is very nice also with 6.7. I used it in racing and I could score top5 places with this combo. I think that Jesper Orth even won some races with 6.7/122.

is122 is extremely easy in chop and in gybe but you have to be sure to be full powered with 6.7 if you want to be fast. You have to drive it on the fin all the time. I used it once in flat water and wind up to 35-40 knots and it was super easy (but with small fin, sl2 37).
In fact, if the wind is gusty, I prefer 122 to 101 for racing with 6.7. In constant winds, 101 is better with 6.7.
Marko must be a big guy to hang on to a 6.7 on his iS 122 in 35-40 knots.

I also believe that small sails on big boards is somewhat dependent on how steady the wind is and the sailor's weight. In puffy, variable conditions, the small sails are much less forgiving, but if the wind is steady a small sail will work just fine.
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Old 4th June 2009, 10:29 PM   #13
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Hi Berg
I've sailed a 6.5 on my iSonic 122 without any problems. I'm 95 kgs. The board just absorbs the chop and this sail size is very speedy. No doubt a smaller board will be ideal (a little faster if there are no lulls) bu the 122 will work surprisingly well with a 7.0. Actually I've just ordered a 7.0 slalom sail for mine. I use a 40 fin for this size and it works great. I can even use my 40 fin with 8.5. Some find this small but my GPS gives me an average speed of 1-2 knots more with this size compared to my 44 fin (but I need to be powered a little more).
The big difference regarding your combo is if you compete seriousely og "just" go for max fun and drag racing your local buddies. To win you need the ideal combo, but conditions aren't always ideal and so you need the "ideal" compromise.
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Old 5th June 2009, 12:07 AM   #14
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Thanks Per and the others for making up my mind. I just ordered a 101 and will also order a 122. This must cover the conditions and one board will be to much a compromise I think. Because I also like flying with a 7.0 on the 101 and realy like the 8.2 in light conditions and going upwind. fins are a 44 and 40 for the 122. For the 101 I have to experiment a bit. Very strange that everybody hates the drake fins including myself.
Advise to Starboard delete the fins and make the board a little cheaper. Again thanks all of you.
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Old 5th June 2009, 05:41 AM   #15
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Hi Berg,

just a small note. I do not hate Drake fins, actually the Slalom Pro fins that came with the 2009 models are pretty good, no spin-outs at all, very good on upwind when properly powered up.

The only Drake fin that make me spin-out from time to time is the NR13 520.

If your average speed is around 25 knots and you do not suffer from spinouts you won't on drake either, you migth be a tiny bit slower...I don't know.

I just have to say I feel myself comfortable on Drakes (at least the new ones).
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Old 5th June 2009, 01:09 PM   #16
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I agree.
No problems with the 2009 Drake fins on my 122. No spin outs at all and they seem fast. I can use surprisingly small sizes which add to the speed. 44 cm seems as the biggest I would go. I didn't try a Deboichet or other $$ brand though. On the other hand my Drake fin on my Aero 127 really sucks. It's like sailing with weed on the fin, but that's another case..

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Old 5th June 2009, 03:34 PM   #17
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Hey,

in the "Aero" case it is not only the fin (but you are right it was nothing special at least in 2006). The Aero I liked it, but to me it was like stop-and-go board.
I don't have it anymore but my mate whos riding it now loves it, and so did I!

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Old 7th June 2009, 05:31 AM   #18
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I indeed mean the 2006 fins. No experience with newer drakes. Another question. is a 111 an option for the 8.2 sail or will the 111 be to near to the 101
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Old 7th June 2009, 04:15 PM   #19
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Hi,
I drove an is122 with 6.9 simmer vtype in porto pollo. I weigh about 82 kg and had a lot of fun with winds about 4 bft. However, I will order an is111 for my 6.6 north stype. It is enough and I could go with sails between 5.7 to 8.2. With an is101 I would need winds above 5 bft. For winds about 3 bft I would need another sail about 7.6 - 8.2 for the is111. For winds above 6 bft I change to my jp with 5.4 or 4.5.
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Old 7th June 2009, 04:30 PM   #20
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Your previous post:

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I indeed think I go for the 122 for my 8.2 and consider a 101 for the 7.0. Two boards are the option, or a 111 for compromise. but I realy like the minimum winds with a 8.2 so I think a 122 would be good.
111 and 101 would be way too close, covering almost the same range of conditions. Most of iSonic sailors usually choose boards 2 sizes apart (I know some that go even further, for example 94+122) and still have useful overlap.


PS With regard to Drake fins, it's good to see a few sailors here who don't hate them ;-)))
Nothing wrong with my fins for iS122 (2008). Yes softer than the Deb (I've compered them several times), but fast enough for me, rangey, and they rarely spinout with minimum attention.
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