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10th August 2009, 02:37 AM

I think it happens because both boards are an evolution of the 160 and 161 (proven wonderfull designs...).
I use compete in FW and have sailed Starboard since the 158.The 162 wasn't my cup of tea (after a great season with the 161) so sold it ans re-bought an "old" 160 with great sailing pleasure again.
Can't wait the new HWR...

12th August 2009, 02:10 AM

I had just put an order on the new starboard. but i had no problem whit the 162.

From Denmark

nonopr · 12th August 2009, 06:56 AM

I think the new Formula has a carbon top and a wood bottom. The top will be painted white and there is two models HWR and LWR.

13th August 2009, 10:31 AM

what fins would be good on the LWR and HWR?

nonopr · 13th August 2009, 06:54 PM

The same fins you used for the 160 and 161 Formula board.

michelb · 15th August 2009, 02:34 AM

Is very Strange for me that the HWR ( Heavy Weight Rider) has less volume than LWR ( Ligth Weight Rider) from:

http://www.star-board.com/2010/produ...rd_formula.php

Nice Boards Just like my 161.... No change for this year.

Remi · 17th August 2009, 10:50 AM

Hi Michelb,

This boards was develop from the F 160 & F 161 and the 160 was more orientate for light racers despite it have more volume than the F 161.

We have the same for the LWR and HWR, but this difference is not this who make the board more for light racers or heavy racers, but the width in the tail.

If you compare the F 160/161 to the LWR/HWR, there is a lot difference who are less visible but this improvement make the difference like :

- New rocker with the 2mm tail kick
- New Cut aways who help
- New construction in Wood/Carbone who give you the nice water touch from the wood with control and the rigidity and lightness from the Carbone. Result better acceleration with control in all conditions.
All this modifications help for the top speed but also for the up wind angle

Al the best

raffig · 17th August 2009, 07:41 PM

and now the inevitable question...

which fins will work with the LWR and HWR? By the way, I think that the R20 is out of the game...not very successful if we see the equipment list in the last Europeans / Allegro Cup among the top riders.

Cheers,
Rafa

18th August 2009, 04:22 PM

I am 80 kg national level racer. Like many others I swich back to 160 last year as 162 did not work for me with usual Deboichet fins.

do you suggest me L or H model for me?
dont you thing all top racers will go for H (wider) board?

Thanks for your suggestion
S

Remi · 19th August 2009, 07:06 AM

Hi Raffig,

All fins who was working great on the F160 and F161 will work perfectly on the LWR and HWR.

All the best

17th August 2009, 10:50 AM	#17
Remi STARBOARD DEVELOPMENT Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Thailand Posts: 2,334	Hi Michelb, This boards was develop from the F 160 & F 161 and the 160 was more orientate for light racers despite it have more volume than the F 161. We have the same for the LWR and HWR, but this difference is not this who make the board more for light racers or heavy racers, but the width in the tail. If you compare the F 160/161 to the LWR/HWR, there is a lot difference who are less visible but this improvement make the difference like : - New rocker with the 2mm tail kick - New Cut aways who help - New construction in Wood/Carbone who give you the nice water touch from the wood with control and the rigidity and lightness from the Carbone. Result better acceleration with control in all conditions. All this modifications help for the top speed but also for the up wind angle Al the best __________________ Rémi Can answer if you have any questions on this following boards : Carve 111, 121, 131, 141, 151 & 161 Futura 93, 101, 111, 121, 131 & 141. iSonic 80, 87, 90, 97, 107, 110, 117, 127 & 137 To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. UltraSonic 147 Formula Experience One Design Phantom Race 377/320 To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Phantom 295 : To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Formula 167 & 167 Wide : To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Racing Serinity Cat Concept To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

18th August 2009, 04:22 PM	#19
Unregistered Guest Posts: n/a	what to chose I am 80 kg national level racer. Like many others I swich back to 160 last year as 162 did not work for me with usual Deboichet fins. do you suggest me L or H model for me? dont you thing all top racers will go for H (wider) board? Thanks for your suggestion S

19th August 2009, 07:06 AM	#20
Remi STARBOARD DEVELOPMENT Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Thailand Posts: 2,334	Hi Raffig, All fins who was working great on the F160 and F161 will work perfectly on the LWR and HWR. All the best __________________ Rémi Can answer if you have any questions on this following boards : Carve 111, 121, 131, 141, 151 & 161 Futura 93, 101, 111, 121, 131 & 141. iSonic 80, 87, 90, 97, 107, 110, 117, 127 & 137 To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. UltraSonic 147 Formula Experience One Design Phantom Race 377/320 To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Phantom 295 : To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Formula 167 & 167 Wide : To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Racing Serinity Cat Concept To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

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10th August 2009, 02:37 AM	#11
Unregistered Guest Posts: n/a	I think it happens because both boards are an evolution of the 160 and 161 (proven wonderfull designs...). I use compete in FW and have sailed Starboard since the 158.The 162 wasn't my cup of tea (after a great season with the 161) so sold it ans re-bought an "old" 160 with great sailing pleasure again. Can't wait the new HWR...

12th August 2009, 02:10 AM	#12
Unregistered Guest Posts: n/a	I had just put an order on the new starboard. but i had no problem whit the 162. From Denmark

12th August 2009, 06:56 AM	#13
nonopr Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: San Juan, Puerto Rico Posts: 572	I think the new Formula has a carbon top and a wood bottom. The top will be painted white and there is two models HWR and LWR.

13th August 2009, 10:31 AM	#14
Unregistered Guest Posts: n/a	what fins would be good on the LWR and HWR?

13th August 2009, 06:54 PM	#15
nonopr Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: San Juan, Puerto Rico Posts: 572	The same fins you used for the 160 and 161 Formula board.

15th August 2009, 02:34 AM	#16
michelb Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Chile, Santiago Posts: 92	Is very Strange for me that the HWR ( Heavy Weight Rider) has less volume than LWR ( Ligth Weight Rider) from: http://www.star-board.com/2010/produ...rd_formula.php Nice Boards Just like my 161.... No change for this year.

17th August 2009, 07:41 PM	#18
raffig Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 49	and now the inevitable question... which fins will work with the LWR and HWR? By the way, I think that the R20 is out of the game...not very successful if we see the equipment list in the last Europeans / Allegro Cup among the top riders. Cheers, Rafa