Fin on HWR-Formlua?

Jille · 15th October 2009, 03:45 PM

I/m thinking about buying the new HWR.
On my 160 I used the Drake R13, but the new boards come without a fin.

This brings me to the question what fin to use. Not only the brand, but I also have to make decisions about the rake and stifness.

I'm 100 kilo and will use the board with 3-4 Bft. (gusts 5 Bft.) and a Gaastra Vapor 11m2 2007 (4-5 Bft.) and 12m2 2008 (3-4 Bft.).

Can anyone advise me what fin would be a good one?

Early planing with 3 Bft. is one of the key issues and I'm want to sail local races.

Or are 2 fins a better option than one?

I would like to prefent testing (and buying!) several fins, so any smart advise from you guys (who tested the board) would be great!

Papounet · 15th October 2009, 11:17 PM

Probably the same than the F162
http://www.carbonsugar.com/design/th...-tuning-guide/

Jille · 17th October 2009, 06:33 PM

Great site!
But I've already seen it (and bookmarked it!).
Top tip for every FW-dude(tte).

The problem is that this site contains info about older boards and fins. And the questions about Rake and Stiffness are not answered.

So that's why I'm asking the questions here and hopefully some of the guys who tested the boards (with certain fins) can give me some advise what worked well and what dindn't.

Thanks in advance!

Ricko69 · 17th October 2009, 08:46 PM

Go back to Carbon Sugar again and read it this time !!! look under ARCHIVES.

Katapult · 18th October 2009, 04:30 AM

Hi Jille,

VMG Blades have already designed the correct rake, stiffness for the HWR. See attached link.

www.vmgblades.com

Jille · 18th October 2009, 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ricko69

Go back to Carbon Sugar again and read it this time !!! look under ARCHIVES.

Maybe you should read it yourself, this time.

There is NO info on the HWR, there are NO details for an R20 (for example), etc., related to the weight of the sailor.
And an HWR doesn't seem to be an evolved 162, so this article only indicates what brand could be used on the previous Starboard FW-board.

So I think it's a great site, but my questions are not all answered with it.

@katapult: thanks for the info! VMG could be one of the brands I should e-mail. They claim to have a good fin for the HWR, that sounds good.
Maybe they can help me whith the details as Rake, etc.

Hopefully anyone of the Team can give me some advice too.

Remi · 19th October 2009, 06:14 AM

Hi Jille,

All the fins who was working great on your F160 and F161 will work great on the new HWR.

You can use your Drake one, but if you want to increase your performances, this is the ones I test on this board :

R20, 13 Soft rake + 8cm, 13 Medium rake + 6cm

At your weight I will go more for the R13 Medium rake + 6cm

Hope this help.

All the best

Jille · 19th October 2009, 04:18 PM

This helps to consider the options!

Thanks!

Jille · 22nd October 2009, 08:29 PM

Hi Remi,

Could you please share your opinion about an R20, +8 rake, + Hard, compared with the R13 you recommended above?

What would the differences be on the water?

Thanks in advance!

15th October 2009, 03:45 PM	#1
Jille Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 24	Fin on HWR-Formula? I/m thinking about buying the new HWR. On my 160 I used the Drake R13, but the new boards come without a fin. This brings me to the question what fin to use. Not only the brand, but I also have to make decisions about the rake and stifness. I'm 100 kilo and will use the board with 3-4 Bft. (gusts 5 Bft.) and a Gaastra Vapor 11m2 2007 (4-5 Bft.) and 12m2 2008 (3-4 Bft.). Can anyone advise me what fin would be a good one? Early planing with 3 Bft. is one of the key issues and I'm want to sail local races. Or are 2 fins a better option than one? I would like to prefent testing (and buying!) several fins, so any smart advise from you guys (who tested the board) would be great! Last edited by Jille; 18th October 2009 at 03:45 PM.

19th October 2009, 06:14 AM	#7
Remi STARBOARD DEVELOPMENT Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Thailand Posts: 2,334	Hi Jille, All the fins who was working great on your F160 and F161 will work great on the new HWR. You can use your Drake one, but if you want to increase your performances, this is the ones I test on this board : R20, 13 Soft rake + 8cm, 13 Medium rake + 6cm At your weight I will go more for the R13 Medium rake + 6cm Hope this help. All the best __________________ Rémi Can answer if you have any questions on this following boards : Carve 111, 121, 131, 141, 151 & 161 Futura 93, 101, 111, 121, 131 & 141. iSonic 80, 87, 90, 97, 107, 110, 117, 127 & 137 To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. UltraSonic 147 Formula Experience One Design Phantom Race 377/320 To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Phantom 295 : To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Formula 167 & 167 Wide : To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Racing Serinity Cat Concept To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

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15th October 2009, 11:17 PM	#2
Papounet Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 213	Probably the same than the F162 http://www.carbonsugar.com/design/th...-tuning-guide/

17th October 2009, 06:33 PM	#3
Jille Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 24	Great site! But I've already seen it (and bookmarked it!). Top tip for every FW-dude(tte). The problem is that this site contains info about older boards and fins. And the questions about Rake and Stiffness are not answered. So that's why I'm asking the questions here and hopefully some of the guys who tested the boards (with certain fins) can give me some advise what worked well and what dindn't. Thanks in advance!

17th October 2009, 08:46 PM	#4
Ricko69 New Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 2	Go back to Carbon Sugar again and read it this time !!! look under ARCHIVES.

18th October 2009, 04:30 AM	#5
Katapult New Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Sydney Australia Posts: 6	Hi Jille, VMG Blades have already designed the correct rake, stiffness for the HWR. See attached link. www.vmgblades.com

19th October 2009, 04:18 PM	#8
Jille Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 24	This helps to consider the options! Thanks!

22nd October 2009, 08:29 PM	#9
Jille Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 24	Hi Remi, Could you please share your opinion about an R20, +8 rake, + Hard, compared with the R13 you recommended above? What would the differences be on the water? Thanks in advance!