F162 and Deboichet fins?

Marko CRO169 · 23rd October 2009, 12:21 AM

I have read articles (Carbonsugar: http://www.carbonsugar.com/design/th...-tuning-guide/) that F162 is not so good (recommended) with Deboichet fins ... however, I have a possibility to get 2 second hand excellent condition Deboichet fins, a R19 70S+8 and R13 68M+6, so one as a low-end and one as a high-wind fin ... what do you think? Are they worth combining with my F162? What effects should I expect on the water?

Regards,
Marko

Remi · 24th October 2009, 03:16 AM

Hi Marko,

PLease firt comunicate your weight and sails, thanks.

All the best

Marko CRO169 · 24th October 2009, 03:27 AM

85kg & NP RS:Racing EVO II 10,7

Remi · 24th October 2009, 01:37 PM

Hi Marko,

The R19 soft in - - rake + 8cm work ok but only soft will too stiff and the R13 68 will be a good one for really high winds only.

Hope this help

All the best

Marko CRO169 · 24th October 2009, 02:45 PM

So which Deboichet fin would fit me best for low-end? What would you recommend?

Remi · 24th October 2009, 03:14 PM

Hi Marko,

Depending of your style from sensitive to very sensitive :

- R19 soft -- rake + 8
- R 13 Soft rake + 8
- R 20 rake + 6

All the best

TSAF · 24th October 2009, 06:14 PM

I am currently using the stock r19 fin on my 162.
What is more apropriate for me..?
I have found a r20 +6
I am 70 kgr and I use at the moment a 10.0m2 and a 12.5 for really light winds.

Marko CRO169 · 24th October 2009, 11:47 PM

Thanks Remi!

Remi · 25th October 2009, 04:55 AM

Hi TSAF;

Welcome on the Forum.

At your weight no need a so big and heavy sail, you will have back problems. With a good 10,7 or 11 will be enough in any case 11,8 max.

The R20 is very soft fin and will be better than the Drake R19 at your weight.

Hope this help

All the best

TSAF · 19th June 2010, 03:26 AM

hi, almost a year after.
I am now using only a 10m sail. with a deb r19-- +8 and a r20.
I can't understand why you recommented r20 for light wind. It seems really hard to get it going under 14 miles.
What mast foot settings work best with the r20 and a 10 sail.
Any suggestions on footwork,stance to improve my speed.?
Will boom high will help at all..?

23rd October 2009, 12:21 AM	#1
Marko CRO169 Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Zagreb, Croatia Posts: 41	F162 and Deboichet fins? I have read articles (Carbonsugar: http://www.carbonsugar.com/design/th...-tuning-guide/) that F162 is not so good (recommended) with Deboichet fins ... however, I have a possibility to get 2 second hand excellent condition Deboichet fins, a R19 70S+8 and R13 68M+6, so one as a low-end and one as a high-wind fin ... what do you think? Are they worth combining with my F162? What effects should I expect on the water? Regards, Marko

24th October 2009, 03:16 AM	#2
Remi STARBOARD DEVELOPMENT Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Thailand Posts: 2,334	Hi Marko, PLease firt comunicate your weight and sails, thanks. All the best __________________ Rémi Can answer if you have any questions on this following boards : Carve 111, 121, 131, 141, 151 & 161 Futura 93, 101, 111, 121, 131 & 141. iSonic 80, 87, 90, 97, 107, 110, 117, 127 & 137 To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. UltraSonic 147 Formula Experience One Design Phantom Race 377/320 To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Phantom 295 : To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Formula 167 & 167 Wide : To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Racing Serinity Cat Concept To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

24th October 2009, 01:37 PM	#4
Remi STARBOARD DEVELOPMENT Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Thailand Posts: 2,334	Hi Marko, The R19 soft in - - rake + 8cm work ok but only soft will too stiff and the R13 68 will be a good one for really high winds only. Hope this help All the best __________________ Rémi Can answer if you have any questions on this following boards : Carve 111, 121, 131, 141, 151 & 161 Futura 93, 101, 111, 121, 131 & 141. iSonic 80, 87, 90, 97, 107, 110, 117, 127 & 137 To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. UltraSonic 147 Formula Experience One Design Phantom Race 377/320 To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Phantom 295 : To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Formula 167 & 167 Wide : To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Racing Serinity Cat Concept To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

24th October 2009, 03:14 PM	#6
Remi STARBOARD DEVELOPMENT Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Thailand Posts: 2,334	Hi Marko, Depending of your style from sensitive to very sensitive : - R19 soft -- rake + 8 - R 13 Soft rake + 8 - R 20 rake + 6 All the best __________________ Rémi Can answer if you have any questions on this following boards : Carve 111, 121, 131, 141, 151 & 161 Futura 93, 101, 111, 121, 131 & 141. iSonic 80, 87, 90, 97, 107, 110, 117, 127 & 137 To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. UltraSonic 147 Formula Experience One Design Phantom Race 377/320 To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Phantom 295 : To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Formula 167 & 167 Wide : To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Racing Serinity Cat Concept To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

25th October 2009, 04:55 AM	#9
Remi STARBOARD DEVELOPMENT Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Thailand Posts: 2,334	Hi TSAF; Welcome on the Forum. At your weight no need a so big and heavy sail, you will have back problems. With a good 10,7 or 11 will be enough in any case 11,8 max. The R20 is very soft fin and will be better than the Drake R19 at your weight. Hope this help All the best __________________ Rémi Can answer if you have any questions on this following boards : Carve 111, 121, 131, 141, 151 & 161 Futura 93, 101, 111, 121, 131 & 141. iSonic 80, 87, 90, 97, 107, 110, 117, 127 & 137 To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. UltraSonic 147 Formula Experience One Design Phantom Race 377/320 To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Phantom 295 : To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Formula 167 & 167 Wide : To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Racing Serinity Cat Concept To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

24th October 2009, 03:27 AM	#3
Marko CRO169 Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Zagreb, Croatia Posts: 41	85kg & NP RS:Racing EVO II 10,7

24th October 2009, 02:45 PM	#5
Marko CRO169 Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Zagreb, Croatia Posts: 41	So which Deboichet fin would fit me best for low-end? What would you recommend?

24th October 2009, 06:14 PM	#7
TSAF New Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 16	I am currently using the stock r19 fin on my 162. What is more apropriate for me..? I have found a r20 +6 I am 70 kgr and I use at the moment a 10.0m2 and a 12.5 for really light winds.

24th October 2009, 11:47 PM	#8
Marko CRO169 Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Zagreb, Croatia Posts: 41	Thanks Remi!

19th June 2010, 03:26 AM	#10
TSAF New Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 16	hi, almost a year after. I am now using only a 10m sail. with a deb r19-- +8 and a r20. I can't understand why you recommented r20 for light wind. It seems really hard to get it going under 14 miles. What mast foot settings work best with the r20 and a 10 sail. Any suggestions on footwork,stance to improve my speed.? Will boom high will help at all..?

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