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Old 12th October 2010, 01:04 AM   #1
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Question Life is so simple in Starboard World ?

Recently watched Tiesda`s speech about new Futrura.
I like the way that everything is so simple;pragmatic and easy. Obvious almost.

We`ve made the board 15% thinner to make board easy to control. ?

We`ve sharpened rails to make board fast ?

We`ve added dome to make board comfortable ?

So we`ve now got another new board with greater range;faster top speed' easier control ;earlier planing and easier gybing ??? Its great ;how do they do it year after year ?
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Old 12th October 2010, 01:19 AM   #2
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Although I am a starboard fan, I must agree


But on the other hand, it's the same in any other sport, hobby or wathever, e.g. skis, snowboards, tennis racquets, computers, software, mobiles, etc ...

Each year newer models, each year better.

Functionally all these products often don't get much better.
It's the package and marketing around that gets better each time.

It's the only way the manufacturers can survive.
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Old 12th October 2010, 02:06 AM   #3
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Hmmm, next year they make them stronger.......broke the top side of my brande new 2010 F111WC after only 3 hrs of use. Must say I love the producs and also have 3 other SBīs - so I wait for my dealer to answer on my poor F111WC :-(

But writing of 1200€ in 3 hrs is to expensive :-)

/Jan, DK
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Old 12th October 2010, 06:15 AM   #4
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Actually I see a parallel with what is going on in the snow ski world where the latest generation of all mountain equipment has produced significantly more versatile gear and some very interesting design concepts like reverse or adaptive camber / early rise tips etc that really do work in the steep and deep, are great for mowing down crud, and generally opening up the skiing experience.
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Old 12th October 2010, 03:22 PM   #5
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Yeh; some must be impressed or they wouldn`t do it !
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Old 12th October 2010, 03:31 PM   #6
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Of course, he won't tell you "the new model is not better than the former one"; otherwise he kills the buisiness

That's how the world works.

Nevertheless, it is true that little by little, the shapes improve. It is not significant from one year to another, but a 2011 board is trully better than a 2005 one. The problem actually is that the price increase has become significant from one year to another!
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Old 12th October 2010, 03:34 PM   #7
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Kitesurf evolves more rapidly because it is a younger sport. And I am not sure it is evolving a lot anymore.

In windsurf, we know now for about 10 years what works and what don't.
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Old 12th October 2010, 03:34 PM   #8
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This is not specific to Starboard. All brands claim to make better gear year after year. This is probably a must to attract cool newcomers who want something else than their (grand) Dad. This must be true to some extend because the evolution is sensible over the past ten years, and furthermore if you look further back. However I wonder what the next revolution may be. Windsurf seems to be evolving marginally now while Kitesurf... I mean: isn't Kitesurf a radical evolution of Windsurf, like Windsurf itself was for sail boat? Smaller, more agile, bigger sail vs. wetted area, etc...

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Old 12th October 2010, 05:03 PM   #9
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Can be seen like this

What is good to know if the situation is this one is that there are in the world maybe 200 times more people that practise sailboat than windsurfers, if the ratio windsurf/kite could be the same...

So, what can be the next step after kitesurf?

Some people try to sell the SUP as the next big thing, but it is not an evolution/revolution of kite/wind
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Old 12th October 2010, 05:34 PM   #10
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"Of course, he won't tell you "the new model is not better than the former one"; otherwise he kills the buisiness "

"In windsurf, we know now for about 10 years what works and what don't."

So in otherwords its BS ???>?>

Its not the claims re-performance that are contentious its the explanations I find questionable.

Like

" Lowering mast foot position aids control " ? Hows that work then ???

Almost like its set in stone;proven and obvious. Which at best it just isn`t ???? Is it ???

If its the case
a) Why dont other brands do it ??

b) Why didn`t starboard do it before ???

It will be good to see results ???
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