Sail size for 15knt Futura 111

Jez · 27th January 2011, 09:40 AM

Hi,

I weigh about 82kg and my height is about 5/11. I sail in condition from 15knt to 30+ flat and choppy water conditions.

I have a 2008 Starboard Futura 111 with the stock 38cm fin, I’ve been using this board for 5 months now, my current sails a 4.7, 5.2, 6.1 but I am finding the 6.1 is a bit small for 15knts and am finding it hard to get on the plane. It may be my early planning skills in marginal conditions that are the issue or a combination of both. But I feel that it may be the sail size?

I have just bought a 2009 86 kode for the high wind days, so I want to use the Futura in lower wind range.

What size sail would work best for the Futura 111 for the 15 – 20knt wind range?

Thanks
Jez

RadiantX · 27th January 2011, 04:49 PM

Hey Jez,

I'd go something around the 7m-7.5m range. Either Cambered or no cam would work well. I also have a Futura111 and use this board with a 7m no cam sail. I also weight 82kg and get going in 13+ knots with this setup and easily sail in up to 18-20 knots. I would also suggest a good fin. I use a 38 & 40cm C3 Venom on this board. 6.1m to 7m is a good gap also.

John1 · 28th January 2011, 05:21 PM

Ezzy Freeride 8,0 is perfect. I cant see that this sail exist (www.ezzy.com), but I do have it.
JJ

Ken · 28th January 2011, 10:07 PM

Jez,

The largest recommended sail for the new Futura 111's is 8.0. Usually, as you approach the upper limit, things get out of balance and the fun factor diminishes. I would go with RadiantX. 7.5 should be your largest sail on that board and it should work well in the 15 - 20 knot range at your weight.

KJO · 29th January 2011, 07:40 PM

Hi Jez, i have a F111 and have used it with 7.0 and 7.5 NPv8's. I would agree with radientX's comments. The 7.0 works really well and is a good gap with your 6.1. The 7.5's ok on flat water, with the right fin (i use select RS 41, however in the ocean with a big swell, i feel i;m not really getting much advantage out of it, plus it feels alittle awkward. The 7.0 is a sweet spot. I use it with a select SL9 39. Im 86kg and 6'.0

John1 · 29th January 2011, 09:27 PM

Hi there.
Yes I´agree that most of the brands recommends to big sails as the upper limit (Fanatics for example).
BUT:
With my Ezzy freeride 8,0, I´m sailng with a very high degre of a comfortable possition with the rig, feet and the body.
But I think its important to a sail with a typical "power forward" sail as Ezzy sails. Here in the south of Sweden we have to use weedfins. The weedfins have a bigger area related to the depth of the fin. May be its therefor it will function so well.
Interesting if anybody can discuss a bit.
With regards,
John 1

Jez · 31st January 2011, 07:54 AM

Hey Guys,

Thanks for all the advice, much appreciated. I’m going to go for a 7m non cambered sail, as that sounds like it will have the perfect wind range for the board.

Cheers
Jez

KJO · 11th February 2011, 06:48 PM

Hi Jez, i've also used my F111 with a NP7.2 hellcat (non cambered sail). Non cambered sails do feel a little lighter, hence a 7.0-7.3 non cambered sail would work well. The NPv8's do feel a little heavier, hence the comments about the 7.5V8

PrydeMan · 14th February 2011, 08:34 AM

Last year I used 7.5m V8 on my F111 with a Select SL7 39cm. It worked real well and I would not go bigger. This year I'm using 7.0m RSS MkIV and have not had much wind to try it out and sort out which fin I should use.
Any where between 7.0m and 7.5m would suit. Myself I would recommend a 2 or 3 cambered sail in these sizes.

27th January 2011, 09:40 AM	#1
Jez New Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 6	Sail size for 15knt Futura 111 Hi, I weigh about 82kg and my height is about 5/11. I sail in condition from 15knt to 30+ flat and choppy water conditions. I have a 2008 Starboard Futura 111 with the stock 38cm fin, I’ve been using this board for 5 months now, my current sails a 4.7, 5.2, 6.1 but I am finding the 6.1 is a bit small for 15knts and am finding it hard to get on the plane. It may be my early planning skills in marginal conditions that are the issue or a combination of both. But I feel that it may be the sail size? I have just bought a 2009 86 kode for the high wind days, so I want to use the Futura in lower wind range. What size sail would work best for the Futura 111 for the 15 – 20knt wind range? Thanks Jez

28th January 2011, 10:07 PM	#4
Ken Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas USA Posts: 797	Jez, The largest recommended sail for the new Futura 111's is 8.0. Usually, as you approach the upper limit, things get out of balance and the fun factor diminishes. I would go with RadiantX. 7.5 should be your largest sail on that board and it should work well in the 15 - 20 knot range at your weight. __________________ Toys: Formula 160; iSonic 111; HiFly Move 105; Tiga 263; '85 Mistral Superlight. Maui Sails TR 11.0; 9.2; 8.4; 7.6; 6.6; Maui Sails Switch 6.0; 5.2; Maui Sails Global 4.5; 4.0.

29th January 2011, 09:27 PM	#6
John1 Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: south of sweden Posts: 78	Hi there. Yes I´agree that most of the brands recommends to big sails as the upper limit (Fanatics for example). BUT: With my Ezzy freeride 8,0, I´m sailng with a very high degre of a comfortable possition with the rig, feet and the body. But I think its important to a sail with a typical "power forward" sail as Ezzy sails. Here in the south of Sweden we have to use weedfins. The weedfins have a bigger area related to the depth of the fin. May be its therefor it will function so well. Interesting if anybody can discuss a bit. With regards, John 1 Last edited by John1; 29th January 2011 at 09:32 PM.

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27th January 2011, 04:49 PM	#2
RadiantX Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 62	Hey Jez, I'd go something around the 7m-7.5m range. Either Cambered or no cam would work well. I also have a Futura111 and use this board with a 7m no cam sail. I also weight 82kg and get going in 13+ knots with this setup and easily sail in up to 18-20 knots. I would also suggest a good fin. I use a 38 & 40cm C3 Venom on this board. 6.1m to 7m is a good gap also.

28th January 2011, 05:21 PM	#3
John1 Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: south of sweden Posts: 78	Ezzy Freeride 8,0 is perfect. I cant see that this sail exist (www.ezzy.com), but I do have it. JJ

29th January 2011, 07:40 PM	#5
KJO New Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 11	Hi Jez, i have a F111 and have used it with 7.0 and 7.5 NPv8's. I would agree with radientX's comments. The 7.0 works really well and is a good gap with your 6.1. The 7.5's ok on flat water, with the right fin (i use select RS 41, however in the ocean with a big swell, i feel i;m not really getting much advantage out of it, plus it feels alittle awkward. The 7.0 is a sweet spot. I use it with a select SL9 39. Im 86kg and 6'.0

31st January 2011, 07:54 AM	#7
Jez New Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 6	Hey Guys, Thanks for all the advice, much appreciated. I’m going to go for a 7m non cambered sail, as that sounds like it will have the perfect wind range for the board. Cheers Jez

11th February 2011, 06:48 PM	#8
KJO New Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 11	Hi Jez, i've also used my F111 with a NP7.2 hellcat (non cambered sail). Non cambered sails do feel a little lighter, hence a 7.0-7.3 non cambered sail would work well. The NPv8's do feel a little heavier, hence the comments about the 7.5V8

14th February 2011, 08:34 AM	#9
PrydeMan Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 84	Last year I used 7.5m V8 on my F111 with a Select SL7 39cm. It worked real well and I would not go bigger. This year I'm using 7.0m RSS MkIV and have not had much wind to try it out and sort out which fin I should use. Any where between 7.0m and 7.5m would suit. Myself I would recommend a 2 or 3 cambered sail in these sizes.