Isonic 111 planing

739 · 26th November 2008, 12:06 PM

I am thinking of trading in my Isonic 111 that is 2 years old for the `09 model but I have noticed that the new one uses smaller fins which concerns me?!?!
Will I be able to get on the plane with the new one as quickly as with the older one???
I would appreciate a comment from someone who has really tried them not just an extract from the current Isonic page!
Can one of the experts comment please!
Thank you!

erik · 26th November 2008, 02:43 PM

HI,

I changed my isonics 2008 for the 2009 101/122/133

The planing inproved again in this years models. They glided very light over the water in lulls and with one little pump they plane. Great boards.

I don,t use the standard fins, i have spin out with them. I use the curtis rs6b.

have fun,

greetings from holland,

erik

Marko · 26th November 2008, 04:35 PM

Hi Erik!

Do you think that new isonics suffer from less control in chop because of their improved planing in lighter winds?

I have is101 2007 which is FANTASTIC in chop, but suffer a bit in light wind.

I have is101/122 09 on order and I have plans to use 101 down to 5.5 and very demanding conditions (2007 is great for this).

thanks

erik · 26th November 2008, 07:47 PM

Hi,

I sailed the 133 with 7,8 in 21 knots and big chop. The board stayed in control. I sailed 59 km per hour on it.
With the 101 i sailed with 5,8 with 38 knots and the board stayed on the water and felt great. i'm still tuning with footstraps and fins.

greetings from holland

erik

bora kozanoglu · 29th November 2008, 08:56 PM

Hello

I am using 111 in most of the time in pwa and offical slalom events and this board is realy great..chop or flatwater doesnt matter; you can put from 6.7 till 8.4 and even 9.0 sometımes and the board has great coNtrol speed and planıng ability..and with 2009 model the top speed is also improved more..hope it helps

TUR 11

auraki · 17th March 2009, 05:02 AM

How much do you weigh bora kozanoglu ?

Waiting4wind · 17th March 2009, 03:21 PM

I use a 7.8m and 9m on the 111, at about 88kg. Both work well but the 9 is much better with a 48cm fin. You just need to be careful not to bury the nose and submarine while slogging.

CarlosD · 17th March 2009, 10:23 PM

Hi 739,

I owned an IS111 2007, then changed for 2008 model and now I´m sailing the 2009 .
As on 2008 the board had a wider tail than 2007, and wider again on 2009 between straps, the board not only plane earlier, but carry better the bigger sails (8.4-9.0), the sweetspot is as usual around 7.8. As regards control the 2009 model, rigged with a proper fin (forget drake stock fins) have and incredible high speed smoother ride, even on chopp, I guess that is in that aspect that double wingers are paying off.

auraki · 18th March 2009, 01:02 AM

So it seems that for a 68 kg sailor, the 111 is the biggest joyce, but what' s with the 101 for light to medium wind ?
Whats the minimum in knots that I can sail efficiently with the 101 and how much with the 111 (with my 68 kg) and sails around 7-7.5 ?

Is there someone with experience to answer this ?

CarlosD · 18th March 2009, 05:37 AM

Auraki,

considering your weight you will start planning at around 10 knots with THE IS111/7.5 M with goog pumping technique, but you will start sail efficiently at +-12 knots. With the IS101/7.5 you probably will start planning at 13 knots but you will start to feel that at 15 knots you will have a much better ride

26th November 2008, 12:06 PM	#1
739 New Member Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 1	Isonic 111 planing I am thinking of trading in my Isonic 111 that is 2 years old for the `09 model but I have noticed that the new one uses smaller fins which concerns me?!?! Will I be able to get on the plane with the new one as quickly as with the older one??? I would appreciate a comment from someone who has really tried them not just an extract from the current Isonic page! Can one of the experts comment please! Thank you!

26th November 2008, 02:43 PM	#2
erik Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 44	isonic 111 planing HI, I changed my isonics 2008 for the 2009 101/122/133 The planing inproved again in this years models. They glided very light over the water in lulls and with one little pump they plane. Great boards. I don,t use the standard fins, i have spin out with them. I use the curtis rs6b. have fun, greetings from holland, erik

26th November 2008, 07:47 PM	#4
erik Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 44	isonic 111 Hi, I sailed the 133 with 7,8 in 21 knots and big chop. The board stayed in control. I sailed 59 km per hour on it. With the 101 i sailed with 5,8 with 38 knots and the board stayed on the water and felt great. i'm still tuning with footstraps and fins. greetings from holland erik

17th March 2009, 10:23 PM	#8
CarlosD Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Buenos Aires Argentina Posts: 33	Isonic 111 2007 vs 2009 Hi 739, I owned an IS111 2007, then changed for 2008 model and now I´m sailing the 2009 . As on 2008 the board had a wider tail than 2007, and wider again on 2009 between straps, the board not only plane earlier, but carry better the bigger sails (8.4-9.0), the sweetspot is as usual around 7.8. As regards control the 2009 model, rigged with a proper fin (forget drake stock fins) have and incredible high speed smoother ride, even on chopp, I guess that is in that aspect that double wingers are paying off. __________________ The chassis: Isonic 2009 122/101/86 , F2 Mauiproject W 90 lts The motors: Slalom: Code red 8.8 NP RSR 7.8/6.7 evo/6.2 evo NP RS6 5.4 Wave: NP zone 4.4 North Ice 4.7/5.3 The rider: Age 48 (yeah, I know, so old, but still on form) Height 1,84 m Weight 87 kg

18th March 2009, 01:02 AM	#9
auraki New Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 14	101 vs 111 starboard So it seems that for a 68 kg sailor, the 111 is the biggest joyce, but what' s with the 101 for light to medium wind ? Whats the minimum in knots that I can sail efficiently with the 101 and how much with the 111 (with my 68 kg) and sails around 7-7.5 ? Is there someone with experience to answer this ?

26th November 2008, 04:35 PM	#3
Marko Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 82	Hi Erik! Do you think that new isonics suffer from less control in chop because of their improved planing in lighter winds? I have is101 2007 which is FANTASTIC in chop, but suffer a bit in light wind. I have is101/122 09 on order and I have plans to use 101 down to 5.5 and very demanding conditions (2007 is great for this). thanks

29th November 2008, 08:56 PM	#5
bora kozanoglu New Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 6	Hello I am using 111 in most of the time in pwa and offical slalom events and this board is realy great..chop or flatwater doesnt matter; you can put from 6.7 till 8.4 and even 9.0 sometımes and the board has great coNtrol speed and planıng ability..and with 2009 model the top speed is also improved more..hope it helps TUR 11

17th March 2009, 05:02 AM	#6
auraki New Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 14	How much do you weigh bora kozanoglu ?

17th March 2009, 03:21 PM	#7
Waiting4wind Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 60	I use a 7.8m and 9m on the 111, at about 88kg. Both work well but the 9 is much better with a 48cm fin. You just need to be careful not to bury the nose and submarine while slogging.

18th March 2009, 05:37 AM	#10
CarlosD Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Buenos Aires Argentina Posts: 33	Auraki, considering your weight you will start planning at around 10 knots with THE IS111/7.5 M with goog pumping technique, but you will start sail efficiently at +-12 knots. With the IS101/7.5 you probably will start planning at 13 knots but you will start to feel that at 15 knots you will have a much better ride __________________ The chassis: Isonic 2009 122/101/86 , F2 Mauiproject W 90 lts The motors: Slalom: Code red 8.8 NP RSR 7.8/6.7 evo/6.2 evo NP RS6 5.4 Wave: NP zone 4.4 North Ice 4.7/5.3 The rider: Age 48 (yeah, I know, so old, but still on form) Height 1,84 m Weight 87 kg

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