Question for Remi About the 162 Formula Factory fin?

nonopr · 23rd April 2009, 07:00 AM

Hi Remy, I all of the forums they trash the Drake fin that comes with the 162 board. I just got my new 162 2009 Formula board and I got a R-19 Drake Fin. Was it supposed to come with a R-20 fin??
What seems to be the real story with the R-19 fin that eveyone has a problem with.
What would be the ideal fin for that board and how can I get one fin that works.
Thanks ahead of time.

JayBeeJB · 23rd April 2009, 07:50 AM

The website says that the 162 comes with the R19. I understand that the R20 was only to be packaged with the FOD if that were successfully adopted by the IOC.

Sean O'Brien has written an exellent article on www.CarbonSugar.com about setting up boards that includes comments on fins. There is also an interview with the shaper from VMG Blades (Chris Ting) on that site that gives good insights into what makes a fast fin. I think there is also an article on Miami windsurfing with Dave Kashy that gives good insights too.

Is the Drake R19 a bad fin? Jesper Vesterstrom did a job on Australian formula sailors over a year ago using the stock Drake fin.

JB

Remi · 23rd April 2009, 03:10 PM

Hi Nonopr,

The fin who is deliver with all the Formula 161 and 162 is the Drake R19. Shurman was use it with great succes but yes If you start to compare it with Custom fins you will found a difference but in price also.

All the best

Marko CRO169 · 21st August 2009, 08:12 PM

Remi,

Do you still stick to your suggestion from a year ago to use the following fins with F162:
- Under 14 knots : R20
- Over 14 knots : R20 rake +6
- Over 20 knots : R13 soft rake + 6

I ask that as there was an extensive discussion on R20 and its "fragility" vs. R19 etc. ever since ...

Regards,
Marko

Remi · 24th August 2009, 10:53 AM

Hi Marko,

Their is many option depend of your weight and style, but better to say that all the fins who was working on the F 160 & F 161 will be perfect on the LWR & HWR.

All the best

23rd April 2009, 07:00 AM	#1
nonopr Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: San Juan, Puerto Rico Posts: 572	Question for Remi About the 162 Formula Factory fin? Hi Remy, I all of the forums they trash the Drake fin that comes with the 162 board. I just got my new 162 2009 Formula board and I got a R-19 Drake Fin. Was it supposed to come with a R-20 fin?? What seems to be the real story with the R-19 fin that eveyone has a problem with. What would be the ideal fin for that board and how can I get one fin that works. Thanks ahead of time.

23rd April 2009, 03:10 PM	#3
Remi STARBOARD DEVELOPMENT Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Thailand Posts: 2,339	Hi Nonopr, The fin who is deliver with all the Formula 161 and 162 is the Drake R19. Shurman was use it with great succes but yes If you start to compare it with Custom fins you will found a difference but in price also. All the best __________________ Rémi Can answer if you have any questions on this following boards : Carve 111, 121, 131, 141, 151 & 161 Futura 93, 101, 111, 121, 131 & 141. iSonic 80, 87, 90, 97, 107, 110, 117, 127 & 137 To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. UltraSonic 147 Formula Experience One Design Phantom Race 377/320 To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Phantom 295 : To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Formula 167 & 167 Wide : To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Racing Serinity Cat Concept To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

24th August 2009, 10:53 AM	#5
Remi STARBOARD DEVELOPMENT Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Thailand Posts: 2,339	Hi Marko, Their is many option depend of your weight and style, but better to say that all the fins who was working on the F 160 & F 161 will be perfect on the LWR & HWR. All the best __________________ Rémi Can answer if you have any questions on this following boards : Carve 111, 121, 131, 141, 151 & 161 Futura 93, 101, 111, 121, 131 & 141. iSonic 80, 87, 90, 97, 107, 110, 117, 127 & 137 To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. UltraSonic 147 Formula Experience One Design Phantom Race 377/320 To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Phantom 295 : To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Formula 167 & 167 Wide : To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Racing Serinity Cat Concept To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

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23rd April 2009, 07:50 AM	#2
JayBeeJB New Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 5	The website says that the 162 comes with the R19. I understand that the R20 was only to be packaged with the FOD if that were successfully adopted by the IOC. Sean O'Brien has written an exellent article on www.CarbonSugar.com about setting up boards that includes comments on fins. There is also an interview with the shaper from VMG Blades (Chris Ting) on that site that gives good insights into what makes a fast fin. I think there is also an article on Miami windsurfing with Dave Kashy that gives good insights too. Is the Drake R19 a bad fin? Jesper Vesterstrom did a job on Australian formula sailors over a year ago using the stock Drake fin. JB

21st August 2009, 08:12 PM	#4
Marko CRO169 Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Zagreb, Croatia Posts: 41	Remi, Do you still stick to your suggestion from a year ago to use the following fins with F162: - Under 14 knots : R20 - Over 14 knots : R20 rake +6 - Over 20 knots : R13 soft rake + 6 I ask that as there was an extensive discussion on R20 and its "fragility" vs. R19 etc. ever since ... Regards, Marko