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Old 27th June 2010, 12:23 AM   #1
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Question Rio 2010 S of M ?

Hello there,

Last year my children, age 15-16 and app. 60 kgs, did some windsurfing on my board Futura 144. Just learning, they did well but problems with steering upwind. So now I want to buy a bigger board for the children, a Rio 2010 sport. Problem is I don't know to choose the S (175 liters) of M (195 liters). I think the S will do best, looks more a freerider at the end. Has anyone experience with the Rio 2010 S of M ? After 2 of 3 years of windsurfing the children will still like this board ? Which is faster, the S of M version, when surfing at 4 Bft ?

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Old 27th June 2010, 01:43 AM   #2
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Hi Robert,
Since your children are still growing, the Rio M might be the better call.
What size and type of rig are they using?
What problem were they having with staying upwind?
If they were constantly being swept downwind, where they taught to "tip" your
Futura 144 slighty upwind rail down so it will carve upwind on the shape in the bottom?
At 60 Kg. (132.2 lbs) the Rio S will surely work, but it will not be as stable due to the
narrower width (76 cm vs 80.5 for the Rio M).
I do not have the Rio S to compare, but I'm now on my second "new generation" Rio M
and I think the speed of the Rio M in shortboard mode (centerboard up and stowed) will
surprise you.
Bft F4 (11-15 knots) will favor the Rio M (particularly if your kids grow significantly) and
should have them planing with 6.5-7.5m2 rigs.
Hope this helps,
Roger
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Old 29th June 2010, 12:37 AM   #3
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Hi Roger,
My children did surf one a few times, standup and turning, with a rig for children 3,5 m2. Next time I hope they can use a rig 5 m2. I think a Rio S has anough volume and stability, besides after 1-2 years they will probably enjoy the Rio S more then the Rio M (looks to me more an allround beginnersboard ?). At this website the video shows a Rio S and surfing looks good (also the female of cause ..). Has anyone experience with the Rio S (2010 or 2009, shape is the same I think) ?? Or the Rio M ? Let me know please. Thanks for your advice for now Roger.
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Old 29th June 2010, 10:51 AM   #4
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Hi Robert,
I have lots of experience (like more than 12 hours on the water in the last month alone) with the 2010 Rio M. I have a couple of hundred hours on the 2008 Rio M.
I know the new (and the old) Rios perhaps better than anyone.
With a 3.5 or 5.0 m2 rig, you will need a minumum of 16-18 knots of wind (like in the video, but those were not 3.5 or 5.0 m2 rigs for sure) to get planing performance.
What website are you stating has the lovely girl on the Rio S?
I've looked at the Starboard Rio video, and there is no way to tell if the girl is on the
Rio S or the Rio M. Perhaps the board looks a little smaller/narrower, and it could be a Rio S, but no way to tell for sure without checking with the folks who did the 2010 photo shoot.
The Rio S/M/L are basically the same shapes 2008/2009/2010.
Only some minor graphics and EVA deck details have changed.
I ordered a Rio S Sport 2010, but was unable to get one, and I'm a team rider.
Hope this helps,
Roger
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Old 30th June 2010, 11:09 PM   #5
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Hi Roger,
In situation 3-4 Bft. I also want to surf the Rio, with rig 9 m2., so both Rio S and M will do well for me. The Rio S then will be faster and more in control I presume (anyone experience with both boards ?). The children I think will surf the Rio S better after a few years and the Rio S is also easier te carry. Nice to hear you orderd also the Rio S. The nice girl in the video was only a few seconds on screen, maybe Starboard should change that, most surfers like to see girls surfing ... (my wife doesn't like surfing, but maybe a new Rio can change that). Again thanks for your reply.
Greetings,
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Old 9th August 2010, 02:58 AM   #6
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Hi to you all,
A few weeks ago I bought the Rio S sport 2010 and my kids did some windsurfing. The Rio is a stable board, the kids did surf very well and today I also did surf myself for a while, at 3 Bft +, 9 m2 NP V8 and a 50 cm. racefin. I managed to plane a few times, not as fast as my Futura 144 but it was fast enough. So we all are very satisfied with the board ! Roger, I hope you also like the board (I presume you got one).
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