Goodbye Hawaii windsurf access... - Page 2

16th February 2008, 04:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill

Maybe:- Hookipa Grommet Association.

WTF is that?

16th February 2008, 05:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill

Maybe:- Hookipa Grommet Association.

Its the HOMO GROMMMET ASSOCIATION.

A group of young drug abusers who break into cars at HOOKIPA and haras sailors at every turn. I think they are the womens auxiliary to Da Hui.

16th February 2008, 06:06 AM

Consider:

1) Surfers on a wave are just as cabable of inflicting serious injury on another surfer just as a windsurfer could.

2) There is a greater chance of a surfer on a wave colliding with another surfer since there are a lot more surfers closer together than there are surfers and windsurfers close to each other.

3) Fast moving surfers on a wave often come within feet or even inches of other surfers paddling out, yet there is no law against this. But wait...... there should be a law against this if this bill is about safety. (which it isn't.) Nontheless, under this bill windsurfers are expected to stay more than half a football field away, while surfers come within inches of colliding with each other.

4) There are already posted rules in favor of surfers even without this bill.

16th February 2008, 07:58 AM

The Bill has been deferred!

According to Sen. Clayton Hee during this afternoon's Senate Committee hearing, there has been "an extraordinary amount of testimony in opposition to the bill", and the Senator who submitted the legislation requested the bill be deferred so "they can work on it".

A big Mahalo to everyone who took the time to email, phone or visit the committee members. Nice to know the system can actually work if we all get involved.

16th February 2008, 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unregistered

The Bill has been deferred!

According to Sen. Clayton Hee during this afternoon's Senate Committee hearing, there has been "an extraordinary amount of testimony in opposition to the bill", and the Senator who submitted the legislation requested the bill be deferred so "they can work on it".

A big Mahalo to everyone who took the time to email, phone or visit the committee members. Nice to know the system can actually work if we all get involved.

"they can work on it."

"they" meaning "we."

http://hookipagrom.com/

"You flew here. We grew here."

"Aloha. Now GTFO."

geo · 16th February 2008, 05:46 PM

I suspect this story is somewhat related to kiteboarding. Or at least, here in Italy we are experiencing progressive restrictions to sailing freedom since the kiteboarding boom, due to the high number of accidents related to that sport. Unfortunately, rules don't make differences between kiteboarding and relatively safer windsurfing.

By the way, maybe this time the windsurfing industry will understand that a major threat to our sport is due to restrictions to beach and water access. In places like Maui there were little restrictions if any, so maybe this was unnoticed by the big companies based there; but in places like here, this is a real problem. Unfortunately, most windsurfers' individualist nature makes it difficult for us to act collectively; so I guess that it's also up to the companies to do something to defend their business. Hopefully this story will make something change.

16th February 2008, 11:16 PM

Anyone know who the sponser of this bill was?

steveC · 16th February 2008, 11:55 PM

From what I've read, the bill was introduced by Senator Les Ihar.

17th February 2008, 12:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unregistered

"they can work on it."

"they" meaning "we."

http://hookipagrom.com/

"You flew here. We grew here."

"Aloha. Now GTFO."

Is it true that HGA is still stucking the cocks of Da Hui. Yea, I thought so. They own you. Get yer knee pads ready grommets.

17th February 2008, 12:25 AM

Yea, the HGA are a bunch of pussies. They talk alot of shit and try to stir stuff up but they run away like little girls when you bring it to them. Then they hide behind their skirts if you bring them the fight.

Good luck starting a clothing company. It will be fun to watch it fail. It takes more than a bunch of ice heads to actually get a business going and make some money.

Peace out.

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16th February 2008, 06:06 AM	#13
Unregistered Guest Posts: n/a	Consider: 1) Surfers on a wave are just as cabable of inflicting serious injury on another surfer just as a windsurfer could. 2) There is a greater chance of a surfer on a wave colliding with another surfer since there are a lot more surfers closer together than there are surfers and windsurfers close to each other. 3) Fast moving surfers on a wave often come within feet or even inches of other surfers paddling out, yet there is no law against this. But wait...... there should be a law against this if this bill is about safety. (which it isn't.) Nontheless, under this bill windsurfers are expected to stay more than half a football field away, while surfers come within inches of colliding with each other. 4) There are already posted rules in favor of surfers even without this bill.

16th February 2008, 07:58 AM	#14
Unregistered Guest Posts: n/a	The Bill has been deferred! According to Sen. Clayton Hee during this afternoon's Senate Committee hearing, there has been "an extraordinary amount of testimony in opposition to the bill", and the Senator who submitted the legislation requested the bill be deferred so "they can work on it". A big Mahalo to everyone who took the time to email, phone or visit the committee members. Nice to know the system can actually work if we all get involved.

16th February 2008, 05:46 PM	#16
geo Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 327	I suspect this story is somewhat related to kiteboarding. Or at least, here in Italy we are experiencing progressive restrictions to sailing freedom since the kiteboarding boom, due to the high number of accidents related to that sport. Unfortunately, rules don't make differences between kiteboarding and relatively safer windsurfing. By the way, maybe this time the windsurfing industry will understand that a major threat to our sport is due to restrictions to beach and water access. In places like Maui there were little restrictions if any, so maybe this was unnoticed by the big companies based there; but in places like here, this is a real problem. Unfortunately, most windsurfers' individualist nature makes it difficult for us to act collectively; so I guess that it's also up to the companies to do something to defend their business. Hopefully this story will make something change.

16th February 2008, 11:16 PM	#17
Unregistered Guest Posts: n/a	Anyone know who the sponser of this bill was?

16th February 2008, 11:55 PM	#18
steveC Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 639	From what I've read, the bill was introduced by Senator Les Ihar.

17th February 2008, 12:25 AM	#20
LennyBruce Guest Posts: n/a	Yea, the HGA are a bunch of pussies. They talk alot of shit and try to stir stuff up but they run away like little girls when you bring it to them. Then they hide behind their skirts if you bring them the fight. Good luck starting a clothing company. It will be fun to watch it fail. It takes more than a bunch of ice heads to actually get a business going and make some money. Peace out.