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Old 14th May 2008, 03:53 AM   #11
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Formula = Golf R32
Raceboard = Aston DB
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Old 14th May 2008, 11:25 AM   #12
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Hi All,

With two racer of hi-level in each categories, you will have this result :

- Under 8 knots no chance to the Formula to beat the Phantom Race due to the variation of wind.
- Over 8 knots just the contrary, the Formula is really faster in all tacks.

Both boards are really fast in their seperate world and you take really nice felling with it, depend of your style dagger board or not.

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Old 14th May 2008, 07:46 PM   #13
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remi;

It may be just like you say in open waters, but on enclosed waters the FW gear really struggles. We've had guys who do very well in FW try to use it on our puddle, and 90% of the time they were much slower than they were on a Raceboard because even in a strong wind, they didn't get the long legs they needed.

They are fantastic, but not the universal solution the Olympic class has to be.
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Old 30th June 2008, 02:09 AM   #14
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Well today I went sailing on my F159/10.3 combo. The conditions were 5 to 15 knots, which to me means 30-50% non planing. Just for the fun of it I took out my old Mistral SLE 311 (not a real longboard and it doesn't have a dagger, anyway it's only 8 kgs).
The Mistral appeared to be a lot of fun in the light gusty winds. Due to the longer waterline it went at a noticeable higer speen than the formula when not planing. This speed again generated some more airflow around the sail which made it more powerfull and stable. The result was surprisingly early planing and way better schlogging. Non planing on a formula is pure waiting (waste) time. On the long(er) board it became quite fun. I have to admit that the Mistral had seriousely problems upwind compared to the formula and when the wind came up to a stable +10 knots the formula outperformed the Mistral on any point. Anyway 5-15 knot days are common 75% of the time in my area so, I really think that when the year is over a longboard will have given me the most pleasure....
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Old 2nd July 2008, 04:21 AM   #15
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Per, that was pretty much the thinking behind the hybrids. But somehow they ended up over weight to the extent they always feel a bit stuck to the water until it's blowing pretty big time. I use a Gsport Lifter in these conditions and am pretty happy with that. But it needs a fairly wide board which inevitably does not go well in displacement mode. Needs wings like a skiff on something narrower ?
Why not get a raceboard ? Well they're great but when the wind gets up it seems pretty silly not to be able to fly the fin upwind on a dedicated course racer. Plus the they tack like a catamaran (reluctantly)
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