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29th October 2008, 05:18 AM

So will it make all the old boards uncompetitive.
If so will upset quite a few, but probably sell quite a few too.

Remi · 29th October 2008, 09:55 AM

Hi Unregistered,

The really good stuff is that the Race-Board do a good come back with the Exocet, Mistral Equipe III 2009 and Star-Board Phantom Race 2009

All the best

WILDWINDSCA · 29th October 2008, 10:45 PM

anon poster 31, yes it will probably do both,
i am wondering which group "I" will fall into or if in the end l will care. I was thinking of getting into the longboard thing again .
Years ago I raced and liked it , i say like as a good reagatta had everyone on similar gear .
i was and am still a heavy weight so some reagattas i just got killed by skinny doods.
But that didnt bother me as we bascially were on the same kit.
Sail tech was also changing in those years, i had supplied with my Comp SST a 6.4 semi soft sail, great for One Design racing but very underpowered.
So when i got blown by the next guy on a similar board but with a 7.5 ( one of the bigger sail sizes in its day) i wasnt too happy, and It did not make for good competition.
I ended getting a 7.5.
It ended up being an arms race after that. I see this happen in keelboat PHRF racing BUT at least there a rating handicapping system ( PHRF however is extremely simple.)

So here I have sat, sailed my gear havent raced but wondered if i just might buy a used prodigy comp, an old Mistral One design, or equipe 2.
Now I am not so sure, but I do commend the manufacterers for getting the racing longboard back.
But will these new boards by virtue of being so much longer waterline wise and with bigger daggerboard just blow older stuff away period??
The volume of the 380 will sure help heavir guys like me , but are we again back to an arms race, even before sailor proficiency get involved in the equation.
My buddy keeps trying to get me back into it , but i do not see much of a point going to reagattas (3 to 78 hours driving) and racing without the best kit.
So i may be forced to buy the 380 and get to it .

I would much rather have bought a used design, but these may just be dogs now.

I keep watching reports and we will see.
jeff

WILDWINDSCA · 29th October 2008, 10:47 PM

sorry 3 to 7 hours driving , not 78 hours driving...eeeeek

30th October 2008, 03:49 AM

Same for me minimum 2,5 hours, regularly 4-5 hours, sometimes also 7-9 hours, one way! But I enjoy raceboard/longboard racing. You can race nearly at all wind conditions and have fun. And the longboard community is a great social folk.

30th October 2008, 05:24 AM

yes i agree, from what i have heard its always a blast at the regattas, the sailign is fun too, and what could be more fun then hanging with fellow sailors!

29th October 2008, 09:55 AM	#32
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30th October 2008, 05:24 AM	#36
Unregistered Guest Posts: n/a	hangin yes i agree, from what i have heard its always a blast at the regattas, the sailign is fun too, and what could be more fun then hanging with fellow sailors!

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29th October 2008, 05:18 AM	#31
Unregistered Guest Posts: n/a	So will it make all the old boards uncompetitive. If so will upset quite a few, but probably sell quite a few too.

29th October 2008, 10:45 PM	#33
WILDWINDSCA Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 27	anon poster 31, yes it will probably do both, i am wondering which group "I" will fall into or if in the end l will care. I was thinking of getting into the longboard thing again . Years ago I raced and liked it , i say like as a good reagatta had everyone on similar gear . i was and am still a heavy weight so some reagattas i just got killed by skinny doods. But that didnt bother me as we bascially were on the same kit. Sail tech was also changing in those years, i had supplied with my Comp SST a 6.4 semi soft sail, great for One Design racing but very underpowered. So when i got blown by the next guy on a similar board but with a 7.5 ( one of the bigger sail sizes in its day) i wasnt too happy, and It did not make for good competition. I ended getting a 7.5. It ended up being an arms race after that. I see this happen in keelboat PHRF racing BUT at least there a rating handicapping system ( PHRF however is extremely simple.) So here I have sat, sailed my gear havent raced but wondered if i just might buy a used prodigy comp, an old Mistral One design, or equipe 2. Now I am not so sure, but I do commend the manufacterers for getting the racing longboard back. But will these new boards by virtue of being so much longer waterline wise and with bigger daggerboard just blow older stuff away period?? The volume of the 380 will sure help heavir guys like me , but are we again back to an arms race, even before sailor proficiency get involved in the equation. My buddy keeps trying to get me back into it , but i do not see much of a point going to reagattas (3 to 78 hours driving) and racing without the best kit. So i may be forced to buy the 380 and get to it . I would much rather have bought a used design, but these may just be dogs now. I keep watching reports and we will see. jeff

29th October 2008, 10:47 PM	#34
WILDWINDSCA Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 27	sorry 3 to 7 hours driving , not 78 hours driving...eeeeek

30th October 2008, 03:49 AM	#35
Unregistered Guest Posts: n/a	Same for me minimum 2,5 hours, regularly 4-5 hours, sometimes also 7-9 hours, one way! But I enjoy raceboard/longboard racing. You can race nearly at all wind conditions and have fun. And the longboard community is a great social folk.