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Old 27th March 2009, 01:48 AM   #11
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Stéphane,

There are several scenario you can choose from:

1) Keep your F162 + 10 m2 sail for wind below 10-12 knots (*), dump your 80 cm wide slalom board and get an iSonic 133/144 for the +20 knots wind with your 8.4 m2 sail; or

2) dump both your 80 cm wide slalom board and your F162 and get an iSonic 150 for both wind < 10-12 knots with 10 m2 sail and winds > 20 knots with 8.4 m2 sail; or

3) same as above but get a Futura 155 for winds >12-13 knots (**) with your 10 m2 sail and winds >20 knots with your 8.4 m2 sail.

Both the iSonic 150 and Futura 155 are a lot user-friendlier than your current F162, especially when chop builds up, no questions. Both have much rounder and thinner rails and tail (e.g., much more forgiving in heavy chop while jibing) than the super wide tail with thick and boxy rails à la FW. Compare a dedicated FW (F162) with a XXL slalom (iSonic 150) and a XL freeride/freeslalom (Futura 155).

The key question for you to ask is how much of low wind range (within the 10-15 knots wind range) are you gonna be prepared to give up? For your XXXL weight, there is no miracle in low wind with the 10 m2 sail: Formula >> iSonic 150 >> Futura 155 ≥ iSonic 144 >> iSonic 133 >>>>>>>> iSonic 122...!

Cheers !

JM

(*) benchmark: 2m x 105 kg pal on FW + 11 m2 sail + 70 cm fin : planing as of 8/9 knots wind. Flat water.
(**) same pal with a 2006 Carve 162 (257 x 82 cm x 54 cm OFO) + 9.5 m2 sail + stock 52 cm fin : planing as of 12/13 knots up to +18 knots wind. Small to medium chop (30-50 cm)

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Old 27th March 2009, 02:03 AM   #12
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more discussion and comparison between Apollo, Formula, iSonic 150 and iSonic 144 for XXL riders with large sail:

http://www.star-board.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5186

Cheers !

JM
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Old 27th March 2009, 02:39 AM   #13
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Many thanks Jean-Marc, your advice is appreciated !

I have a 12m and a 11m with the F162 but I do get frequently overpowered.

I money permits I will try to keep this kit (at least the 12m) for sub 10kts conditions (summer breeze) but the problem is that currently I'm fighting with winds up to 15kts (next combo is 80cm/8,4 sail and the gap is huge ... !)

I've spotted a second hand Is 144 which would be nice with a 10m sail (still have to buy it)

So here is the plan :

F162 and 12m -------> up to 10/12 kts
Is144 and 10m ------> 10/12 to 15kts
Is144 and 8,4 -------> 15 to 20kts

If I want the Is150 or the Futura 155 I will have to sell the F162 (cannot find a second hand), not sure that it would be wise ...

What do you think ?

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Old 27th March 2009, 06:42 PM   #14
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Stemeyer,

I surmise you're like Stéphane with regard to XXXL rider weight and gear.

Unfortunately, I cannot comment about the huge gap between your current F162 + 12 m2 combo and XL slalom board + 8.4 m2 combo, first because I'm much lighter than you and second because I don't own a Formula nor a 12 m2 sail.
However, I do use an 11m2 sail in 7-12 knots wind and swap down to an 8.2 m2 sail in 10-15 knots wind on my Hypersonic 105. I do find this sail gap absolutely perfect for me (paired with a 55 cm and a 32 cm fin on HS105, respectively), but bear in mind I'm only 183 cm x 65 kg...! Next sail size down is a 6.6 m2 in 15-20 knots of wind (either with HS105, Kombat 86 or iSonic 53 depending on chop size and wind quality).
Another fact is that almost all of my heavy weight buddies (85-105 kg) use a Formula board + 70 cm fin and large sail (10+ up to 12.5m2) combos in sub 10 knots summer breeze on our flat water lake. One exception is a ±95 kg pal using a Phantom 380 + V8 9.5 m2 sail combo.

Your plan sounds perfect to me. F162 could be used with 12 m2 sail in puffy summer breeze or with 10 m2 sail if you need enough buoyancy in very gusty conditions. If more steady conditions prevail, just swap the F162 for the iS 144 and keep going with the 10 m2 sail (or swap for the 8.4m2 sail if wind picks up more and more). Your plan with 2 boards (F162/iS144) and 3 sails (12/10/8.4) makes a lot of sense to me if you want to cover the widest light wind range and TOW as possible in full planing mode. In sum, go for it...!

Cheers !

JM
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