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Old 20th May 2009, 06:19 AM   #1
luis garcia yuste
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Default kode 80 for 5.0 to 3.7m2?

HI,

Im 78kg ( neoprene included), and I interested to buy a board to freeride blast, bump and jnp, and wavesailing less 1m wave ( im a bengineer wavesailor).
My sails are:
. for 25 knts: 5.0m2 ( 60% of days)
- for 30 knts: 4,2m2 (30% of days)
- for 35-40 knt: 3,7m2 (10 % of days)
I usually sail on the Mediterranean sea ( costa Brava- spain- Girona - ), could you know this spot for the PWA slalom event. But in winter it have a strongs winds, with a little choppy, and some wave ( less 1m).

Actually I have a Kode 94, that is perfect for flat sea and 6,5m2 ( 15 knts), 5,7m2 (20 knots), and 5,0m2 ( 25knots).

what kode do you recomended me, K80 or K74 to add with K94?
one more, the wind is North and it is a bit variable, it means that it is at 25 knots, and then it fall at 20knots.
thanks a lot.
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Old 20th May 2009, 11:55 PM   #2
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Hi Luis

I'm 86kg and I use a Kombat86 + Acid74 (so not the Kode but very similar with regard to wind/sail range). Both 80 and 74 will carry 3.7-5.0, I think you have to decide based on these things:
1. K74 will be better when well powered with 4.2 and 3.7
2. K80 will make a more comfortable overlap with your K94, and better in holey 5.0 conditions
I'd say go for 74, it's not that small for 78kg (in neoprene, so you're 75 or less).
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Old 21st May 2009, 05:14 AM   #3
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Thanks Screamer.
At this moment I have a 83L on shore wave board ( Naish GW83) wich width is wide ( 58cm) and the same length ( 234cm), I think that K74 is too narrower (54cm) and a bit dificult when the wind decrises, and K80 is a litle bit wide (56cm). Is it for strong winds better a wide or narrower width?
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Old 21st May 2009, 04:41 PM   #4
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You can go for K80 if you want to fine tune in that specific wind range (as Ola usually say), but I think you'll have two boards that are too close and with massive overlap.

K74 all the way.

PS "Is it for strong winds better a wide or narrower width?" ???????????
I mean someone who is sailing in 30 or more knots, you are joking, right? ;-))))
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Old 21st May 2009, 10:05 PM   #5
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HI,

Im 78kg ( neoprene included), and I interested to buy a board to freeride blast, bump and jnp, and wavesailing less 1m wave ( im a bengineer wavesailor).
My sails are:
. for 25 knts: 5.0m2 ( 60% of days)
- for 30 knts: 4,2m2 (30% of days)
- for 35-40 knt: 3,7m2 (10 % of days)
I usually sail on the Mediterranean sea ( costa Brava- spain- Girona - ), could you know this spot for the PWA slalom event. But in winter it have a strongs winds, with a little choppy, and some wave ( less 1m).

Actually I have a Kode 94, that is perfect for flat sea and 6,5m2 ( 15 knts), 5,7m2 (20 knots), and 5,0m2 ( 25knots).

what kode do you recomended me, K80 or K74 to add with K94?
one more, the wind is North and it is a bit variable, it means that it is at 25 knots, and then it fall at 20knots.
thanks a lot.
Kode 74 if not 68, with 40% in 4.2/3.7 the 80 is too big, and the 74 is very happy with a 5.0.
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Old 22nd May 2009, 05:10 AM   #6
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HI Screamer,

Ill change my actual GW83 for K80 or K74, and my quiver will be k94+k80 or k94+k74.

Hi Davide, tanks for your answer.
The last year I sailed this days:
- 1 days in gw83+3.7m2, it isnt my first option sail with 3.7, only occasionally
- 4 days in GW83+4.2m2
- 6 days in GW83+5.0m2, good conditions
- 10 days in K94+5.0m2, gusty conditions, in this days is better a little bit of volumen wjen the wind is down and a just sail for the gust.
what do you think, k74 or k80?

thans for all.
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Old 22nd May 2009, 08:18 AM   #7
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HI Screamer,

Ill change my actual GW83 for K80 or K74, and my quiver will be k94+k80 or k94+k74.

Hi Davide, tanks for your answer.
The last year I sailed this days:
- 1 days in gw83+3.7m2, it isnt my first option sail with 3.7, only occasionally
- 4 days in GW83+4.2m2
- 6 days in GW83+5.0m2, good conditions
- 10 days in K94+5.0m2, gusty conditions, in this days is better a little bit of volumen wjen the wind is down and a just sail for the gust.
what do you think, k74 or k80?

thans for all.
well with 1 day with the 3.7 I would go with the Kode 74, it has a bit of a smaller print then my Acid 74 and it should work very well in those 10 days of 4.2/5.0.
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Old 22nd May 2009, 04:00 PM   #8
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Hi Luis,

You have gotten some good advice above. Since it is mainly flat water and after all not som many super windy days, I would not go for a smaller board than the 74 so I think your original question 74 vs 80 is a good one. The two boards are fairly similar and also the 80 feel pretty small and is controllable in chop. It is mostly when you come to the point where the wind start to blow the board around that you will feel the extra size of the 80 in a negative way. I would say that this is somewhere around powered up 4.2. So from that stage and obviously with 3.7 the smaller size of the 74 will make the sailing ore comfy. Conversely, the 74 easily handles 5.0 and isn't really significantly slower to plane with a 5.0 than the 80. The difference is more in "ease of use" The 80 will glide a bit longer through a jibe, ie keep speed better, and the wider platform will also forgive more mistakes in maneuvers.

So in a way, the 80 will be a more natural step down from the gw83, which I believe is a Naish traditional kind of "hard" shape (correct me if I'm wrong). The K80 will for sure feel much with 4.2 and 3.7 than the GW83.

So, if you feel the gw83 is in the verge of being acceptable with small sails and if you think it feels good in size with a 5.0, I would say the kode 80 might be it.

But if you really struggle with the gw83 with small sails and maybe feel it is unnesessarily big with a 5.0, then you should look for the Kode 74.

Also, the more used you are with low volume boards from before, the more the recommendation will shift towards, the 74.

The back ground of this recommendation as a whole is that it is not nice to buy a new board and find it too small and that it gets left in that car in marginal conditions because it just feel to cumbersome to sail. The 74 and 80 are two boards in the same class and these kinds of boards are super fun to sail. So ideally, you should be on it as much as possible, not leaving it only for nuking days. The 74 will play this role too, despite being a bit smaller and in the end it will indeed be an overall better fit for 3.7-5.0. But it will only work if YOU feel comfortable on it.
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Old 23rd June 2009, 06:13 AM   #9
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Hi guys,

thanks a lot for yours advises. I`ve buyed the kode74 wood carbon, and the last saturday (20th june) I tested with a 5.0 m2 sail (Naish session) in Costa Brava ( is the same beach were the last week has done the pwa slalom race, but the diference is the orientation of wind, race salalom was made with Sud 12-14knots, and the last saturday was NW 20-25 knots).

In the morming the wind was a little variable between 15-25 knots, but I sailed with a 5.0m2 and Kode 94, and it was fine when the wind was between 20-25kn. Afther 14.00 h, the wind was more constant ( 20-25knots), and k94 was too big.I think is the moment to try K74 +5.0 m2 , and I was great, more control on the surf and choppy, it plane easily, and very fast, and the best was the gybe ( very easy and narrower).

I cant doubt than K74 is perfect for 3,7 and 4,2, my doubt it will be if 5.0m2 are confortable, but in this moments Iam sure is a good option k74+k94.
I can reconigze that the narrower width I dont feel,only in the first moment to plane.

In the other hand, the boards that I more use are K94 and Is122, and the last year I was sailed 74 days ( 11 days with GW83+3.7/4.2/5.0m2, 24days with Kombat96+5.0/5.7/6.5m2, and 39 days with Is122+6.5 /7.3 /9.0m2).

thanks.
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Old 3rd July 2009, 06:01 AM   #10
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Hi,

What fins do you recomended me for Kode 74 and 5.0m2 / 4,2m2 / 3.7m2
What brand of fins are better MFC k-one, or what else?

Thanks a lot.
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