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Old 7th July 2010, 03:51 PM   #11
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This is true and you tend to rig larger now, but modern sails have also a bigger wind range. You don't really need sails every 0.5 m² like in the old days. I guess their ability to handle unsteady wind has grown in proportion. Anyway I remember people already complaining in the early 90's (mostly inland spots) with gear of that time. It seems that wind was very steady before WS actually started.
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Old 7th July 2010, 04:58 PM   #12
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Default It will most like affect affect wind

The Nysted wind farms consist of "Rødsand I" (166 MW total -erected 2003) and "Rødsand II" (215 mW total - under construction). Rødsand I and II are approx 3 km (or 2 miles) from each other and estimates are that "Rødsand II" will reduce the power procution from "Rødsand I" up to 30% (depending on wind direction). As these windfarm have different owners this has caused some discussion about compensation. Experts within the field estimates that there will be a windshadow more than 20 km away from a large windfarm.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nysted_Wind_Farm

I could link to some additionals sources for information, but the ones I know are in danish.

A personal experience: I have sometimes sailed approx 5-10 km from Rødsand I, and I feel the wind is more gusty than before 2003.

"Your" windfarm is smaller than Rødsand I - but I still think there will be a difference.

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Old 7th July 2010, 06:45 PM   #13
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Default Separation between turbines in farms

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Floyd,
My guess would be there is virtually no effect.
Why?
Look at the separation between the wind turbines in the wind field.
At what one of those units cost, I'm pretty sure that they place them so
the upwind turbine does not negatively effect any turbines downwind.
So, the distance between them is probably greater than some calculated or
actually physically tested distance at which the upwind turbine affects the
efficiency and output of the downwind turbines.
There are several reasons that wind turbines are placed pretty close:

1) Infrastructure: The expenses to the power cable to "Rødsand II" is approx. 300 million dKr (50 million dollars). If the wind turbines were dispersed further, the expenses would be higher. Wind turbine service are another example of expenses that would go up, and you will also need infrastructure at land

2) The right bottom structure, (low) water depth

3) Aesthetics


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Old 7th July 2010, 06:49 PM   #14
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Hi Peter, wind is more affected in altitude, so the effect at around 100 m of a large wind farm will be sensible several miles away (however 30% is surprising). Close to ground level the situation is different because the wind is slower and less steady anyway. It all depends on roughness between the farm and the spot. If plenty of trees, buildings, hills... the difference will be negligible. If very flat land or open water like Rodsand, the extra turbulence will travel much longer. http://www.talentfactory.dk/en/tour/...lter/index.htm for speed simulations and http://www.talentfactory.dk/en/tour/wres/park.htm for park effect.
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Hi Farlo

You are probably rigth about that. I assumed that it was an offshore wind farm.

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