Freeridespeed for higher winds - Page 2

Remi · 21st May 2011, 08:28 AM

Hi Hans

You have Reflex Sails, so i suppose that You have quiet a good Experience. In this case the iSonic 80 will be a machine with that sails. The Futura 93 can be an option but if you have no cams sails, the board is built to compensate the "the less control sail compare to Racing sails".
Please understand that both board are very easy depending about the sails you use on it (Racing Sails or no cams sails)

Hope this help

All the best

hans kleingeld · 21st May 2011, 11:45 AM

Thank you for all the informative posts!

I decided to test with the 2011 iS80 (try to find one) and go for the 2012 iS80 (aug 2011). So board and sailrange will looks like:

iS80: reflex 5.6 and 6.2
Fu 93: reflex (5.6 until iS80 comes), 6.2 and 7.0
Fu 111: reflex 7.0 and 7.8

My experience with the futura's so far with the reflex-sails are very positive. You get a combination with is very fast and fun for GPS-speed and funslalom. I don't surf slalom just half wind with speedruns. I had some conversation with Ian Fox and with his ideas he confirmed the information posted above. So it becomes more clear to me that a Fu80 is not really necesary, but can be find back in the characteristics of an iS80.

Thank you all for sharing your experiences! Hans

kvda · 10th June 2011, 04:29 PM

The idea of developing a smaller Futura already came up at our windsurfspot Schotsman in 2008, and we then spoke about this with SB designer Sven Akerboom. He also brought up that a smaller Futura wouldnt be a big change comnpared with the smallest isonics, and therefore wouldn 't really add something to the existing range.

I have tested the isonic 80 (2011) myself (with RS Racing 6.2) and it was a great experience. What a board! Very much control and very much speed. But certainly, what a control it has.
Still love my 2006 sonic 85, but the 80 has definitively got more control.

hans kleingeld · 12th June 2011, 01:06 AM

Hi Kvda,

I have sailed the sonic 85 in 2006 aswell. It was a very pleasant board to surf in high winds and chop. However the iSonic 87 from 2007 was much more challenging for me. More aggresive and with control issues when not surfing with full commitment and courage.

- Does the iS80 have same charcteristics like the old 85?
- I'm also questioning myself if a 2 board solution might be more relaxed (iS 80 for 5.6, 6.2 and Fu 111 for 7.0 and 7.8). I must admit that i didn't take my decision yet. Fu 93 and 111 have a vast windrange, but iS may increase windrange even more into high wind and for control.
- Another important remark to keep a 2 board solution (besides its cheaper) is what Remi mentioned that the iS 80 will do well 7.0, so when conditions get very well I could jump from Fu 111 to iS 80 with the reflex 7.0.

Hans

kvda · 15th June 2011, 06:11 PM

I think the I80 is a very different board to sail. Less volume, more control en it needs more wind to get going. It's faster then the S85. To me, the space between F111 and i80 sounds a bit too much.

But this questions are of course better answered by SB .

21st May 2011, 08:28 AM	#11
Remi STARBOARD DEVELOPMENT Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Thailand Posts: 2,342	Hi Hans You have Reflex Sails, so i suppose that You have quiet a good Experience. In this case the iSonic 80 will be a machine with that sails. The Futura 93 can be an option but if you have no cams sails, the board is built to compensate the "the less control sail compare to Racing sails". Please understand that both board are very easy depending about the sails you use on it (Racing Sails or no cams sails) Hope this help All the best __________________ Rémi Can answer if you have any questions on this following boards : Carve 111, 121, 131, 141, 151 & 161 Futura 93, 101, 111, 121, 131 & 141. iSonic 80, 87, 90, 97, 107, 110, 117, 127 & 137 To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. UltraSonic 147 Formula Experience One Design Phantom Race 377/320 To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Phantom 295 : To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Formula 167 & 167 Wide : To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Racing Serinity Cat Concept To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

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21st May 2011, 11:45 AM	#12
hans kleingeld Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 63	Thank you for all the informative posts! I decided to test with the 2011 iS80 (try to find one) and go for the 2012 iS80 (aug 2011). So board and sailrange will looks like: iS80: reflex 5.6 and 6.2 Fu 93: reflex (5.6 until iS80 comes), 6.2 and 7.0 Fu 111: reflex 7.0 and 7.8 My experience with the futura's so far with the reflex-sails are very positive. You get a combination with is very fast and fun for GPS-speed and funslalom. I don't surf slalom just half wind with speedruns. I had some conversation with Ian Fox and with his ideas he confirmed the information posted above. So it becomes more clear to me that a Fu80 is not really necesary, but can be find back in the characteristics of an iS80. Thank you all for sharing your experiences! Hans

10th June 2011, 04:29 PM	#13
kvda Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 173	The idea of developing a smaller Futura already came up at our windsurfspot Schotsman in 2008, and we then spoke about this with SB designer Sven Akerboom. He also brought up that a smaller Futura wouldnt be a big change comnpared with the smallest isonics, and therefore wouldn 't really add something to the existing range. I have tested the isonic 80 (2011) myself (with RS Racing 6.2) and it was a great experience. What a board! Very much control and very much speed. But certainly, what a control it has. Still love my 2006 sonic 85, but the 80 has definitively got more control.

12th June 2011, 01:06 AM	#14
hans kleingeld Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 63	Hi Kvda, I have sailed the sonic 85 in 2006 aswell. It was a very pleasant board to surf in high winds and chop. However the iSonic 87 from 2007 was much more challenging for me. More aggresive and with control issues when not surfing with full commitment and courage. - Does the iS80 have same charcteristics like the old 85? - I'm also questioning myself if a 2 board solution might be more relaxed (iS 80 for 5.6, 6.2 and Fu 111 for 7.0 and 7.8). I must admit that i didn't take my decision yet. Fu 93 and 111 have a vast windrange, but iS may increase windrange even more into high wind and for control. - Another important remark to keep a 2 board solution (besides its cheaper) is what Remi mentioned that the iS 80 will do well 7.0, so when conditions get very well I could jump from Fu 111 to iS 80 with the reflex 7.0. Hans

15th June 2011, 06:11 PM	#15
kvda Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 173	I think the I80 is a very different board to sail. Less volume, more control en it needs more wind to get going. It's faster then the S85. To me, the space between F111 and i80 sounds a bit too much. But this questions are of course better answered by SB .