Phantom 377 -- Please don't do it! - Page 4

tonymatta · 8th September 2011, 05:40 PM

Why are the two new phantoms not the product menu on the website?

Remi · 12th September 2011, 05:30 AM

Hi All,

New video of this Race-Board but this time the production one :

http://vimeo.com/28880323

All the best

gre26 · 18th September 2011, 02:19 AM

Hey!
I think Remi is pretty much right. No evolution can be made if people don't try new things, new designs. Besides none of us has actually tried that board. And as for those claiming it's like the pandera, it's not. The pandera had wingers, that is an entirely different concept. You know what other board has wingers? Yep, the F2! And time has shown that it doesn't work too bad. Anyway, tha race results will show whether it's a concept to adopt or not. In the meantime I will be enjoying my 2011 phantom 380 which looks so far to be a great board (apart from the super fragile - but then again super light - construction). So thanks a lot Remi for designing great boards and I can only hope you will keep experimenting and evolving the sport further!

Remi · 18th September 2011, 05:26 AM

Hi Gre26

Thanks and you can be sure that my life motif is to try to produce windsurf more exiting and fast to make you guys happy and have fun
All the best

fin66 · 20th September 2011, 12:52 AM

Arghh Remi pourquoi !!!! you do so many nice boards, I just want them all

Just had an awesome season in the raceboard class trying to beat Juha Blinnikka. After a 15 year break it was so much fun competing on a raceboard. Still going to continue at least to the worlds in Finland 2012. So I'm going to buy the phantom 377.
But then you desided to finaly put some double chicken straps to the formula, I have to upgrade my HWR. But you didn't stop there, no you developed the Isonic 117Wide, another got to have board....

What can I say, superb products. Been with you since 2001 and the 175 Formula... Suppose I'm going to stay for many years

Remi · 20th September 2011, 05:52 AM

Hi Fin66

Just try and have a lot of Fun with all this toys

All the best

Joe · 26th September 2011, 09:59 PM

Cool idea!

Remi - any guess to when it will plane with a 9.5? (I could plane my Formula 161 with a 10.0 in 9-10 knots with no real pumping -190lbs)

At what speed would you switch from dagger upwind to planing upwind?

More videos would be awesome!

Joe

Remi · 27th September 2011, 05:03 AM

Hi Joe

It's still a Race-Board so it will be faster with dagger board up wind but do better up wind than the 380 with out dagger board and of course with dagger board.
With my 92 kgs plane almost same time as a Formula with 11 and 377 with 9.5. Plane in tne lulls much easier than 380. This make a big difference who will help a lot for top ranking

All the best

CAN 32 · 27th September 2011, 08:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Remi

Hi Joe

It's still a Race-Board so it will be faster with dagger board up wind but do better up wind than the 380 with out dagger board and of course with dagger board.
With my 92 kgs plane almost same time as a Formula with 11 and 377 with 9.5. Plane in tne lulls much easier than 380. This make a big difference who will help a lot for top ranking

All the best

Huh???????

bh2905 · 27th September 2011, 06:42 PM

has anyone sailed one yet? is there any feed back on the 377 compared to the 380 ?

cheers
bh2905

12th September 2011, 05:30 AM	#32
Remi STARBOARD DEVELOPMENT Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Thailand Posts: 2,334	Hi All, New video of this Race-Board but this time the production one : http://vimeo.com/28880323 All the best __________________ Rémi Can answer if you have any questions on this following boards : Carve 111, 121, 131, 141, 151 & 161 Futura 93, 101, 111, 121, 131 & 141. iSonic 80, 87, 90, 97, 107, 110, 117, 127 & 137 To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. UltraSonic 147 Formula Experience One Design Phantom Race 377/320 To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Phantom 295 : To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Formula 167 & 167 Wide : To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Racing Serinity Cat Concept To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

18th September 2011, 05:26 AM	#34
Remi STARBOARD DEVELOPMENT Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Thailand Posts: 2,334	Hi Gre26 Thanks and you can be sure that my life motif is to try to produce windsurf more exiting and fast to make you guys happy and have fun All the best __________________ Rémi Can answer if you have any questions on this following boards : Carve 111, 121, 131, 141, 151 & 161 Futura 93, 101, 111, 121, 131 & 141. iSonic 80, 87, 90, 97, 107, 110, 117, 127 & 137 To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. UltraSonic 147 Formula Experience One Design Phantom Race 377/320 To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Phantom 295 : To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Formula 167 & 167 Wide : To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Racing Serinity Cat Concept To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Last edited by Remi; 18th September 2011 at 08:44 AM.

20th September 2011, 05:52 AM	#36
Remi STARBOARD DEVELOPMENT Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Thailand Posts: 2,334	Hi Fin66 Just try and have a lot of Fun with all this toys All the best __________________ Rémi Can answer if you have any questions on this following boards : Carve 111, 121, 131, 141, 151 & 161 Futura 93, 101, 111, 121, 131 & 141. iSonic 80, 87, 90, 97, 107, 110, 117, 127 & 137 To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. UltraSonic 147 Formula Experience One Design Phantom Race 377/320 To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Phantom 295 : To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Formula 167 & 167 Wide : To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Racing Serinity Cat Concept To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

27th September 2011, 05:03 AM	#38
Remi STARBOARD DEVELOPMENT Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Thailand Posts: 2,334	Hi Joe It's still a Race-Board so it will be faster with dagger board up wind but do better up wind than the 380 with out dagger board and of course with dagger board. With my 92 kgs plane almost same time as a Formula with 11 and 377 with 9.5. Plane in tne lulls much easier than 380. This make a big difference who will help a lot for top ranking All the best __________________ Rémi Can answer if you have any questions on this following boards : Carve 111, 121, 131, 141, 151 & 161 Futura 93, 101, 111, 121, 131 & 141. iSonic 80, 87, 90, 97, 107, 110, 117, 127 & 137 To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. UltraSonic 147 Formula Experience One Design Phantom Race 377/320 To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Phantom 295 : To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Formula 167 & 167 Wide : To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Racing Serinity Cat Concept To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

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8th September 2011, 05:40 PM	#31
tonymatta Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 73	Why are the two new phantoms not the product menu on the website?

18th September 2011, 02:19 AM	#33
gre26 New Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 3	Hey! I think Remi is pretty much right. No evolution can be made if people don't try new things, new designs. Besides none of us has actually tried that board. And as for those claiming it's like the pandera, it's not. The pandera had wingers, that is an entirely different concept. You know what other board has wingers? Yep, the F2! And time has shown that it doesn't work too bad. Anyway, tha race results will show whether it's a concept to adopt or not. In the meantime I will be enjoying my 2011 phantom 380 which looks so far to be a great board (apart from the super fragile - but then again super light - construction). So thanks a lot Remi for designing great boards and I can only hope you will keep experimenting and evolving the sport further!

20th September 2011, 12:52 AM	#35
fin66 Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 25	Arghh Remi pourquoi !!!! you do so many nice boards, I just want them all Just had an awesome season in the raceboard class trying to beat Juha Blinnikka. After a 15 year break it was so much fun competing on a raceboard. Still going to continue at least to the worlds in Finland 2012. So I'm going to buy the phantom 377. But then you desided to finaly put some double chicken straps to the formula, I have to upgrade my HWR. But you didn't stop there, no you developed the Isonic 117Wide, another got to have board.... What can I say, superb products. Been with you since 2001 and the 175 Formula... Suppose I'm going to stay for many years

26th September 2011, 09:59 PM	#37
Joe Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 64	Cool idea! Remi - any guess to when it will plane with a 9.5? (I could plane my Formula 161 with a 10.0 in 9-10 knots with no real pumping -190lbs) At what speed would you switch from dagger upwind to planing upwind? More videos would be awesome! Joe

27th September 2011, 06:42 PM	#40
bh2905 New Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 1	has anyone sailed one yet? is there any feed back on the 377 compared to the 380 ? cheers bh2905

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