New Formula 167 Wide - Page 9

nonopr · 25th December 2011, 02:38 AM

My Boards for 2012 Season. The best of the best.

ducze · 25th December 2011, 10:39 PM

That's pornography nonopr

Have great xmas

Greg

bubi · 6th January 2012, 05:23 AM

Dear Remi

I received my 167wide yesterday and it’s real very very wide …but a real work of art!

Let me ask you some questions about the recommended fins for this board

Which is the ideal fin rake in degrees (Z and Virus fins) you tested the 167 wide?
(I am 175cm and 88 kg)

In light wind conditions?
In strong winds? (>20 knots)
Choppy water?
And in waves?

Thanking you in advance.

Best regards

Bubi

nonopr · 9th January 2012, 02:31 AM

I finally got to use my 167 wide yesterday. What a dream place it was.
Due to the place I went I had limited options in equipment to take with me so I took my Gaastra Vapor 10m 2011 that I trust and two fins but I kept only one in the board the entire day as it was my first time.
The fin I choose was Zfin 70cm as recommended.
The Board feels small for the size for sure and upwind I was in a very high angle but still needed to figure out if I wanted to go high or fast so I tried high all day and it points high easily but the speed I need to work on that. It felt good but not good enough yet. It is a very wide board so I need to ride a few more times to figure out.
Strap position is very comfortable.
One thing I can tell you is that the board is a machine and fast downwind, Very fast and I was surprised about that speed in just my first downwind leg. The more I went down the faster it got and very loose on top of the water but felt very safe even on extreme angles and wind speed.
The contour of the board tail is a bit awkward but after sailing it a few more times i found the groove and it felt very comfortable the position on the chicken strap and out this is the first board i feel I can race in the chicken strap and feel I am not taking any speed off the throttle, I was max out in the chicken strap and i felt i did not have to use the outside position in many cases.
Upwind the board feels great but the place I went although is was a very flat place when the wind picked up and the wind chop was there and the current entering the bay was there also the board needed to be ridden high and dry of the chop, not always successful at that i felt i might needed a 72cm fin to be able to counter attack that condition.
Between my friends we did 3 informal races to a buoy upwind we found and it was about 17-20 minute races upwind and down to the spot on the beach where we had our equipment set up. To my surprise I took second in the first race and it was on the downwind leg do to the amazing speed this board has. The rest the races I tried to go even higher upwind on the first leg and fail to keep a good speed but I felt at that point I have maxed out of fin power and the chop I mention before was to hunt me.
At the end the board is a great board I just need to keep training on it more.
Hope this review helps.
10m Sail Gaastra Vapor 2011 and Gaastra 100 mast 2011.
Z eos-Fin 70cm uncut 2011.
Mast Track at Recommended.
Foot-straps all the way back front and back.
My weight is 80kg(179lbs).
Wind was 17 knots steady.
Water was flat to small steep short chop due to current coming into bay in the channel.

turco · 31st January 2012, 09:49 PM

This board isn´t fast upwind.
My sail: North Wartp F 2011.
Fins: Z 74; kashy 71; kashy 70; Z 70

mark h · 31st January 2012, 11:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nonopr

My Boards for 2012 Season. The best of the best.

Very nice

iS97/101/117w ?

plasma180 · 1st February 2012, 06:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by turco

This board isn´t fast upwind.
My sail: North Wartp F 2011.
Fins: Z 74; kashy 71; kashy 70; Z 70

Hello,

why, whats the problem?

Thanks

Qkito · 23rd February 2012, 10:16 AM

Any news??

SeanAUS120 · 8th March 2012, 05:02 AM

Hi guys,

Interesting to hear that some of you aren't finding the new board fast. We've done a LOT of racing on it down here in Australia and Asia, definitely it's a huge advantage over previous boards from all the testing we've done.

If anyone has any questions on setup/fins or comparisons to older Starboard models let me know ... I've had a solid 4 months racing on the board already... so fire away ;-)

raffig · 8th March 2012, 02:29 PM

Hi,
The board is definitely faster in all senses and points really high, BUT a few riders over here have found it really "sticky" in order to get it into planning mode, particularly in marginal conditions (8-9 knots). Contrary to some of previous comments, it does take a lot of effort to get it onto a plane! I am not sure if a bigger fin would help, I just tested it with a Kashy 70S.

Anyone felt the same?

Cheers,
Rafa

9th January 2012, 02:31 AM	#84
nonopr Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: San Juan, Puerto Rico Posts: 572	I finally got to use my 167 wide yesterday. What a dream place it was. Due to the place I went I had limited options in equipment to take with me so I took my Gaastra Vapor 10m 2011 that I trust and two fins but I kept only one in the board the entire day as it was my first time. The fin I choose was Zfin 70cm as recommended. The Board feels small for the size for sure and upwind I was in a very high angle but still needed to figure out if I wanted to go high or fast so I tried high all day and it points high easily but the speed I need to work on that. It felt good but not good enough yet. It is a very wide board so I need to ride a few more times to figure out. Strap position is very comfortable. One thing I can tell you is that the board is a machine and fast downwind, Very fast and I was surprised about that speed in just my first downwind leg. The more I went down the faster it got and very loose on top of the water but felt very safe even on extreme angles and wind speed. The contour of the board tail is a bit awkward but after sailing it a few more times i found the groove and it felt very comfortable the position on the chicken strap and out this is the first board i feel I can race in the chicken strap and feel I am not taking any speed off the throttle, I was max out in the chicken strap and i felt i did not have to use the outside position in many cases. Upwind the board feels great but the place I went although is was a very flat place when the wind picked up and the wind chop was there and the current entering the bay was there also the board needed to be ridden high and dry of the chop, not always successful at that i felt i might needed a 72cm fin to be able to counter attack that condition. Between my friends we did 3 informal races to a buoy upwind we found and it was about 17-20 minute races upwind and down to the spot on the beach where we had our equipment set up. To my surprise I took second in the first race and it was on the downwind leg do to the amazing speed this board has. The rest the races I tried to go even higher upwind on the first leg and fail to keep a good speed but I felt at that point I have maxed out of fin power and the chop I mention before was to hunt me. At the end the board is a great board I just need to keep training on it more. Hope this review helps. 10m Sail Gaastra Vapor 2011 and Gaastra 100 mast 2011. Z eos-Fin 70cm uncut 2011. Mast Track at Recommended. Foot-straps all the way back front and back. My weight is 80kg(179lbs). Wind was 17 knots steady. Water was flat to small steep short chop due to current coming into bay in the channel. Last edited by nonopr; 9th January 2012 at 02:36 AM.

31st January 2012, 09:49 PM	#85
turco New Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Buenos Aires Posts: 7	167 wide This board isn´t fast upwind. My sail: North Wartp F 2011. Fins: Z 74; kashy 71; kashy 70; Z 70

8th March 2012, 05:02 AM	#89
SeanAUS120 Dream Team Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia // Dokkum, Netherlands Posts: 131	Hi guys, Interesting to hear that some of you aren't finding the new board fast. We've done a LOT of racing on it down here in Australia and Asia, definitely it's a huge advantage over previous boards from all the testing we've done. If anyone has any questions on setup/fins or comparisons to older Starboard models let me know ... I've had a solid 4 months racing on the board already... so fire away ;-) __________________ GetWindsurfFit.com // The Ultimate Windsurfing Fitness Program.

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25th December 2011, 02:38 AM	#81
nonopr Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: San Juan, Puerto Rico Posts: 572	My Boards for 2012 Season. The best of the best.

25th December 2011, 10:39 PM	#82
ducze New Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 9	That's pornography nonopr Have great xmas Greg

6th January 2012, 05:23 AM	#83
bubi Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 36	Dear Remi I received my 167wide yesterday and it’s real very very wide …but a real work of art! Let me ask you some questions about the recommended fins for this board Which is the ideal fin rake in degrees (Z and Virus fins) you tested the 167 wide? (I am 175cm and 88 kg) In light wind conditions? In strong winds? (>20 knots) Choppy water? And in waves? Thanking you in advance. Best regards Bubi

23rd February 2012, 10:16 AM	#88
Qkito New Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: San Juan Puerto Rico Posts: 3	Any news??

8th March 2012, 02:29 PM	#90
raffig Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 49	Hi, The board is definitely faster in all senses and points really high, BUT a few riders over here have found it really "sticky" in order to get it into planning mode, particularly in marginal conditions (8-9 knots). Contrary to some of previous comments, it does take a lot of effort to get it onto a plane! I am not sure if a bigger fin would help, I just tested it with a Kashy 70S. Anyone felt the same? Cheers, Rafa