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Old 4th February 2016, 02:33 PM   #1
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What is the difference between the 2015 & 2016 Starboard Futura Carbon?

I weigh 190 LB, so what size Futura would I need to be able to uphaul a 8.0 or 8.5 sail?

Why is the 2016 Starboard Futura price so high compared to other Free Race boards?

I would like to get a 2016 Futura Carbon but the price is to high, do you know where I could find a good used 2015 Futura Carbon in the USA?

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Old 6th February 2016, 01:03 AM   #2
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http://www.isthmussailboards.com/201...ctinfo/SB15IS/

Ithmussailboards has a carbon 120 left.

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Old 7th February 2016, 09:32 PM   #3
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Hi,

I have the same weight and will use a Futura 144 with 8,8 and 7,5. Especially for light wind and uphauling bigger sails should it be a good choice. In medium winds the 120 (or 114, 124) also works with your sails, but maybe better with water start.

In my opinion the new prices are made for the rich and will kill the future of windsurfing for the normal young generation. This is not only a problem of Starboard. Thats why it's not easy to find a good second hand board.

I'm not wondering, that nobody from the development team will answer on this question (and also not on the question of the higher weight of the new Futura Ultra Core in my seperate post). And what is UltraCore!? Nobody knows the materials and you can find nothing about the portion of carbon in this sandwich on the website. Maybe this material is even cheaper than carbon of the boards before? Who knows! Why the new Isonics don't have the new UltraCore inside?

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Old Yesterday, 09:02 AM   #4
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Hi,

In my opinion the new prices are made for the rich and will kill the future of windsurfing for the normal young generation. This is not only a problem of Starboard. Thats why it's not easy to find a good second hand board.

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TB64, I don't think that anyone in the windsurfing industry is getting rich! The problem is that wages in places like Thailand and China have been increasing at more than 10% per year, materials have been getting more expensive and sales volumes have been declining.

It is ridiculous to suggest that the industry is deliberately pricing so that only the rich can afford the equipment; In fact, for many years the industry tried to kill itself by portraying and image of windsurfers as young beach bums, acting like complete morons (This put off a lot of older people, who actually do have more money to spend).

We are now at the point where custom built boards are cheaper than mass produced boards. I think that the brands need to look at a low volume local manufacturing supply chain, where boards are made to order for the end customer, the advantage will be that less people are involved in the supply chain - the challenge will be how to maintain quality and consistency of shapes
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Old Yesterday, 11:27 AM   #5
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Mattsurf, maybe the reason of the rapid price increasing is different. I would like to clarify, that I didn't wrote, that the windsurfing industry is getting rich! But for the normal young guys with low earning parents it's nearly impossible to by an new board. Windsurfing unfortunately increasingly becoming a luxury sport. And I'm not happy, that nobody of the development team will answer to bring light in the darkness of the price policy.

The example Futura Carbon shows for me a not traceable price increasing of fabulous 20% from 2015 to 2016, for me not only explicable with your facts. In 2015 the construction was carbon reflex - the most expensive construction. The new Ultra Core is less expensive as you can see on Starboards website technology overview. How then justify the massive price increase?

Mattsurf, I think the same as you about the role of custom boards in the future. More competition is never bad.

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Hi TB64
I think that we can all agree that the price increases will mean that windsurfing becomes too expensive to survive.

Business model needs to change for our sport to survive
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