F160 and DEB R19 S to Remi

Guest · 20th February 2007, 07:31 PM

Remi

I have been following your latest posts and founded that you recommend new DEB R 19 S + 8 to F160. You stated that early planning will imporve as well as overall upwind / downwing angles.

Already I have been using DEB R 13 M + 8 and I am wondering what will I gain to switch to DEB R 19 S + 8 during light wind racing. My weight is 75 kg and am using mostly RS5 10.7 and RS4 9.8. I occasionally participate in national racing. Here in Poland racing is held in pretty light wind...

Will look forward your quick response.

Kind regards
TM

Guest · 20th February 2007, 08:05 PM

I too would like to ask the same question. I will be racing a 160 this season with Vapor 12 & 11 sails. I currently have an R17S+8 (scary fast on flat water with plenty wind, but little lift in light wind) and R18S+8 (better in light wind; but I find it a little hard to get really good performance from this fin). I weigh 95 kg.

I consider ordering a Deboichet R19 +8 for light wind use, but am unsure which stiffness to get for the 160 and my weight and if this fin in general is the right choice. Otherwise I will probably get a R13S+8 which I know works really well with the 160. IS the R19 even better?

barks · 20th February 2007, 08:07 PM

This last post was me; I seem to have trouble understanding the log-in procedure or something a well as the weirdly named buttons in this forum interface (like why I have to click "Last post" to post this message??)

barks · 23rd February 2007, 03:02 PM

Remi, if possible please answer this in regards to the 160 please.

Remi · 23rd February 2007, 04:30 PM

Hi Barks,

Yes the R19 soft -- rake + 8cm is the best fin for the F 160 for light wind condition.

I compare it with the R13, R17 and R18 and under 15 kn ot the R19 is definitely beter. You get a lot more lift, so go thruth the lulls beter and beter acceleration and angle.

I am using this fin since January 2006.

All the best

barks · 23rd February 2007, 09:07 PM

Thank you Remi. I took you advice and ordered one directly. I know that you recommend the R13S+8 as a great fin for more wind; but two new fins are not really possible with my current budget I think. My R17S+8 is great on flat water but spins out in heavy chop at my weight/lack of foot precision.

Is there any trick to making the R18S+8 work well between 15 and 25 knots in chop (at my weight, 95kg)?

How much of a loss is it to go for a R13M+6 in winds above 15-16 knots with an 11m in chop? M flexed and rakes slowly below 8 are a lot easier to find used around here.

Remi · 24th February 2007, 01:01 AM

Hi Barks,

In your special case, I think the best solution is to keep your R17 for over 15 knots and get a R19 soft -- rake + 8 cm for light winds. So you will buy only one fin. The R17 will be enough good in chopy water over 15 knots. The R 18 do not have enough speed in this case compare to the R17.

All the best

20th February 2007, 07:31 PM	#1
Guest Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 1,321	F160 and DEB R19 S to Remi Remi I have been following your latest posts and founded that you recommend new DEB R 19 S + 8 to F160. You stated that early planning will imporve as well as overall upwind / downwing angles. Already I have been using DEB R 13 M + 8 and I am wondering what will I gain to switch to DEB R 19 S + 8 during light wind racing. My weight is 75 kg and am using mostly RS5 10.7 and RS4 9.8. I occasionally participate in national racing. Here in Poland racing is held in pretty light wind... Will look forward your quick response. Kind regards TM

20th February 2007, 08:05 PM	#2
Guest Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 1,321	RE: Me too.. I too would like to ask the same question. I will be racing a 160 this season with Vapor 12 & 11 sails. I currently have an R17S+8 (scary fast on flat water with plenty wind, but little lift in light wind) and R18S+8 (better in light wind; but I find it a little hard to get really good performance from this fin). I weigh 95 kg. I consider ordering a Deboichet R19 +8 for light wind use, but am unsure which stiffness to get for the 160 and my weight and if this fin in general is the right choice. Otherwise I will probably get a R13S+8 which I know works really well with the 160. IS the R19 even better?

20th February 2007, 08:07 PM	#3
barks Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 42	RE: log-in This last post was me; I seem to have trouble understanding the log-in procedure or something a well as the weirdly named buttons in this forum interface (like why I have to click "Last post" to post this message??)

23rd February 2007, 03:02 PM	#4
barks Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 42	RE: F160 and DEB R19 S to Remi Remi, if possible please answer this in regards to the 160 please.

23rd February 2007, 04:30 PM	#5
Remi STARBOARD DEVELOPMENT Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Thailand Posts: 2,340	RE: F160 and DEB R19 S to Remi Hi Barks, Yes the R19 soft -- rake + 8cm is the best fin for the F 160 for light wind condition. I compare it with the R13, R17 and R18 and under 15 kn ot the R19 is definitely beter. You get a lot more lift, so go thruth the lulls beter and beter acceleration and angle. I am using this fin since January 2006. All the best __________________ Rémi Can answer if you have any questions on this following boards : Carve 111, 121, 131, 141, 151 & 161 Futura 93, 101, 111, 121, 131 & 141. iSonic 80, 87, 90, 97, 107, 110, 117, 127 & 137 To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. UltraSonic 147 Formula Experience One Design Phantom Race 377/320 To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Phantom 295 : To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Formula 167 & 167 Wide : To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Racing Serinity Cat Concept To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

23rd February 2007, 09:07 PM	#6
barks Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 42	RE: F160 and DEB R19 S to Remi Thank you Remi. I took you advice and ordered one directly. I know that you recommend the R13S+8 as a great fin for more wind; but two new fins are not really possible with my current budget I think. My R17S+8 is great on flat water but spins out in heavy chop at my weight/lack of foot precision. Is there any trick to making the R18S+8 work well between 15 and 25 knots in chop (at my weight, 95kg)? How much of a loss is it to go for a R13M+6 in winds above 15-16 knots with an 11m in chop? M flexed and rakes slowly below 8 are a lot easier to find used around here.

24th February 2007, 01:01 AM	#7
Remi STARBOARD DEVELOPMENT Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Thailand Posts: 2,340	RE: F160 and DEB R19 S to Remi Hi Barks, In your special case, I think the best solution is to keep your R17 for over 15 knots and get a R19 soft -- rake + 8 cm for light winds. So you will buy only one fin. The R17 will be enough good in chopy water over 15 knots. The R 18 do not have enough speed in this case compare to the R17. All the best __________________ Rémi Can answer if you have any questions on this following boards : Carve 111, 121, 131, 141, 151 & 161 Futura 93, 101, 111, 121, 131 & 141. iSonic 80, 87, 90, 97, 107, 110, 117, 127 & 137 To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. UltraSonic 147 Formula Experience One Design Phantom Race 377/320 To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Phantom 295 : To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Formula 167 & 167 Wide : To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Racing Serinity Cat Concept To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

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