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Old 15th March 2007, 02:45 AM   #1
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Default iS145 vs. iS133 in 8-14kts 7.5-9.5 sails?

can anyone give a bit of advice for a 79-86Kg guy who can plane through gybes on a regular basis

A) 8-10 kts
B) 10-12 kts
C) 12-14 kts

- early planing comparision in above catagories A..C
- top speed comparision in above catagories A..C

if noticeable difference between wood/techstuff please quote.
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Old 15th March 2007, 04:48 PM   #2
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Default RE: iS145 vs. iS133 in 8-14kts 7.5-9.5 sails?

Bottom line - at your weight with those sails, you do not need the iS 145. I have a 133 and from a slalom perspective that is the biggest I would go. The 145 seems IMHO more related to the previous Free Formula and F-Type and will feel a very different board than the 133.

I previously owned a Free Formula which was an absolute joy to sail with 9-10.5 meter sails, but I would not consider sticking a 7.5 in it (although I accept its perfectly possible)

133 all the way!
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Old 20th March 2007, 04:27 PM   #3
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Default RE: iS145 vs. iS133 in 8-14kts 7.5-9.5 sails?

strange isn't it: worth while question == no response (qualified in terms of actually trying to answer the question).

say something non surifn related and every jerk has to respond
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Old 21st March 2007, 08:35 AM   #4
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Default RE: iS145 vs. iS133 in 8-14kts 7.5-9.5 sails?

I thought I did - try again...

8-10 knots - you don't need the 145
10-12 knots - you don't need the 145
12-14 knots - you don't need the 145

Early planing differences will be almost negligible - top speed and control of 133 will be superior to 145 on all points of sail. You can easily get a 9.5 on the 133, so unless you want to go even bigger you don't need the 145
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Old 22nd March 2007, 08:52 PM   #5
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Default RE: iS145 vs. iS133 in 8-14kts 7.5-9.5 sails?

Any tips for Isonic 133 with 8.5 and 9.5? Mast position? Boom ? I find it kind of hard start to plane and get the foot in the back strap. Thanks.
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Old 22nd March 2007, 09:00 PM   #6
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Default RE: iS145 vs. iS133 in 8-14kts 7.5-9.5 sails?

@JGue:

Same here with isonic 133 (1.91m - 90kg)

For faster (semi-passive) start of planing I set the mast position as far as possible to the back to get the nose faster out of the water.

I'm also thinking about putting some extra plugs in the board to get my back straps a little bit more to the middle of the board (my shoesize is nearly 47 in european size...).

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Old 23rd March 2007, 02:37 AM   #7
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Default RE: iS145 vs. iS133 in 8-14kts 7.5-9.5 sails?

No No No - don't!

There is no doubt that the iSonic (for instance in comparison with a similar size Fanatic) planes a little later. The joy of the board comes at the top end when it remains controllable for much longer.

To get you planing a little earlier don't move the mastfoot back! If anything move it forward to keep the board flatter for longer. The board has enormous sail carrying capacity, which means that the 9.5 is just about middle of its range. I stick my mastfoot slightly forward of the mid-point with my 9.4 lightning, and about in the middle with the 8.2 Redline ( I wouldn't stick a smaller sail on it).

Once it is planing its stays there for some time and its use of apparent wind is beautiful. The trick is to get there, and this will require developing your pumping technique. When you spot a little gust, point the board slightly further downwind and work those arms and legs.

As regards to the footstraps, you can play around with their location on the rails a bit with the existing holes and I found that there are (for me) positions that work better than others. My backstrap is back as far as possible and my front strap forward as far as possible, but then I am quite tall. As with any slalom board it requires a bit of commitment to get to the backstrap. The key here is mast foot pressure. When you are about to put your backfoot in, pull down on your mast hand so that you load the mastfoot and front foot. This will allow you to free up your backfoot without going up wind.

Don't mess with extra holes, its not necessary! I am a size 12UK (46/7) and I can sail this board comfortablly. Just make the straps nice and big.

Hope this helps
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Old 26th March 2007, 08:22 PM   #8
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Default RE: iS145 vs. iS133 in 8-14kts 7.5-9.5 sails?

so in other words:

range <= 14 kts -> iS145 instead of iS133.
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Old 26th March 2007, 09:28 PM   #9
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Default RE: iS145 vs. iS133 in 8-14kts 7.5-9.5 sails?

yesterday, I had a long day to get friends with my isonic 133.

- Inland small waterreservoir (1km*1km, but based 15m above the surrounding area)
- 10-14 knots (but also sometimes only 6-8 knots)
- gun booster 8.7m² which is perfect with the 48cm stockfin

I tried to set the mastbase more in front, but I had to much problems with a diving nose in the nowind periods. With the mastbase more at the back I could relax a little bit more and get some more height non-planning untill the wind came back.

My problems with the back feetstraps were solved, because I used my summer surfshoes instead of my winterboots (1mm neoprene against 5mm neoprene with watertemp. around 9°C. :| ).

I used my new helmetcamera, but it switched off on the water and no material left on the memorycard. Hopefully next time more luck, but hey it was a nice, sunny cruisingday. B)





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Old 26th March 2007, 11:03 PM   #10
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Default RE: iS145 vs. iS133 in 8-14kts 7.5-9.5 sails?

where can u surf in B? Have 2 go there sometime in July, mite b able 2 take some gear with me (near Mechelen).
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