Harness Line Length Question

benpfree · 24th April 2007, 12:55 AM

Hi Kevin,

I've seen you and others recommend longer harness lines. Is this for wave sailing only or in general? I've tried longer lines recently for free-ride/bump-and jump sailing and I feel like it prevents me from having a comfortable upright stance. I feel like with longer lines I can't really get the downward pressure on the rig that I need. Am I doing something wrong? I feel much more comfortable with lines that are 20" or 22" compared to the 26 or 28" that a lot of people seem to be recommending.
thanks!
Ben

Kevin Pritchard · 26th April 2007, 03:21 PM

Ben,

I think you are probably just not quite used to them and need more time on them. Once you do figure them out and get used to them you will enjoy them much more than your 22"

Kevin

AlexWind · 26th April 2007, 04:20 PM

I've read this too!
Pros seam to have longer line than amateurs: here're two nice charts

They are in italian but easy to understand anyway.
Cordini means line
Trapezio means harness (in this case harness type)
Lombare refers to wave harness type

Which is your line lenght Kevin?

RobSwift · 28th April 2007, 04:30 AM

Lombare, does that mean seat or waist Trapezio in Englais?

AlexWind · 28th April 2007, 06:14 PM

It means waist harness.
By the way, are the data about you correct?

RobSwift · 29th April 2007, 05:32 AM

It's >>Is the data<< or >>Is the Datum (plural)<<, nor >>are the Data<<. Actually, I use slightly longer harness lines than Robby in all truthfulness. Lombar means Back in latin as far as I know. I assumed that it meant waist, but I was wondering if all professional wear waist harnesses in all aspects of the sport. There's a former pro who I know that used a waist harness when he took up kiting and that was a carry-over from his free style competition. He recently sailed the atlantic in a boat and is learning Portuguese which prabably means he has changed to some other kind of harness.

AlexWind · 29th April 2007, 06:53 AM

(Really!? It's a false friend!

In latin you say um for singular and a for plural. Curriculum vitae singular, curricula vitae plural!)

Back to the topic, I think not all pros wear waist harnesses every time they sail. For instance in speed competitions they'll probably wear seat harnesses.
I don't have more details about the survey but I think it's about What type of harness do you prefer (generally speaking)?
Of course it isn't a very "scientific" question! B)

RobSwift · 29th April 2007, 06:07 PM

I'm prabably wrong as I haven't studied Latin in centuries. It's also been decades since I've been in Italy. I'm wondering what they call the different harnesses in French and German. On topic, I was wondering if a seat harness might require slightly longer lines than a waist. I tried new adjustable harness lines yesterday and had them comfortably at 36" and 37", seat harness and light winds.

24th April 2007, 12:55 AM	#1
benpfree New Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 4	Harness Line Length Question Hi Kevin, I've seen you and others recommend longer harness lines. Is this for wave sailing only or in general? I've tried longer lines recently for free-ride/bump-and jump sailing and I feel like it prevents me from having a comfortable upright stance. I feel like with longer lines I can't really get the downward pressure on the rig that I need. Am I doing something wrong? I feel much more comfortable with lines that are 20" or 22" compared to the 26 or 28" that a lot of people seem to be recommending. thanks! Ben

26th April 2007, 03:21 PM	#2
Kevin Pritchard Dream Team Member Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 442	RE: Harness Line Length Question Ben, I think you are probably just not quite used to them and need more time on them. Once you do figure them out and get used to them you will enjoy them much more than your 22" Kevin __________________ Kevin Pritchard To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

26th April 2007, 04:20 PM	#3
AlexWind Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 166	RE: Harness Line Length Question I've read this too! Pros seam to have longer line than amateurs: here're two nice charts They are in italian but easy to understand anyway. Cordini means line Trapezio means harness (in this case harness type) Lombare refers to wave harness type Which is your line lenght Kevin?

28th April 2007, 04:30 AM	#4
RobSwift Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 85	RE: Harness Line Length Question Lombare, does that mean seat or waist Trapezio in Englais?

28th April 2007, 06:14 PM	#5
AlexWind Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 166	RE: Harness Line Length Question It means waist harness. By the way, are the data about you correct?

29th April 2007, 05:32 AM	#6
RobSwift Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 85	RE: Harness Line Length Question It's >>Is the data<< or >>Is the Datum (plural)<<, nor >>are the Data<<. Actually, I use slightly longer harness lines than Robby in all truthfulness. Lombar means Back in latin as far as I know. I assumed that it meant waist, but I was wondering if all professional wear waist harnesses in all aspects of the sport. There's a former pro who I know that used a waist harness when he took up kiting and that was a carry-over from his free style competition. He recently sailed the atlantic in a boat and is learning Portuguese which prabably means he has changed to some other kind of harness.

29th April 2007, 06:53 AM	#7
AlexWind Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 166	RE: Harness Line Length Question (Really!? It's a false friend! In latin you say um for singular and a for plural. Curriculum vitae singular, curricula vitae plural!) Back to the topic, I think not all pros wear waist harnesses every time they sail. For instance in speed competitions they'll probably wear seat harnesses. I don't have more details about the survey but I think it's about What type of harness do you prefer (generally speaking)? Of course it isn't a very "scientific" question! B)

29th April 2007, 06:07 PM	#8
RobSwift Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 85	RE: Harness Line Length Question I'm prabably wrong as I haven't studied Latin in centuries. It's also been decades since I've been in Italy. I'm wondering what they call the different harnesses in French and German. On topic, I was wondering if a seat harness might require slightly longer lines than a waist. I tried new adjustable harness lines yesterday and had them comfortably at 36" and 37", seat harness and light winds.

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