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Old 10th June 2007, 03:54 AM   #1
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ok ive been looking for a while but now its time to ask the question.

Are theses sup boards a joke?

Where are we going with this?

They seem so esoteric as to be useless in the majority of the world.

would it be better to just do a really good practical longboard really cheap and sell it through walmart? you know $500 dollars all in?

as far as i can see the application for stand up paddling is just about zero...in th egreater scheme of things...
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Old 10th June 2007, 05:54 PM   #2
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What makes you think they are a joke? Have you tried one?
I have a Starboard 12'2" now for a couple of weeks and it is so much fun! I don't live on Maui so the waves we get here in the Netherlands are a bit more 'real world' It is amazing how these board pick up the slowest, lowest waves.

Last week I've had three wavesailing sessions on it in about 8 knots wind. My sailingbuddies had none. Last weekend I took my board out to a meeting with over 100 windsurfers. Deadflat water (Lake). Beautiful weather, max. 8 knots of wind. As soon as I got of the water, people were taking turns for a ride on they board. Why? Because it was fun doing some old school freestyle or just a bit of cruising.

A sailingbuddy of mine who likes to go out on his big Formula kit is now seriously considering selling his gear and getting a S.U.P.

Try one and reconsider
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Old 10th June 2007, 07:53 PM   #3
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Scott McKercher has been out sailing on his SUP in almost windless days here in Guincho. true, this is a spot at the Atlantic ocean, but nonethless far from Maui, WA and these places. The pic below is in onshore, stuff.

<img src="http://www.surfzone.se/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=26351&d=1181076818" ></img>

And Antoine&#39;s been out paddling his SUP almost every day


For wave sailors wanting somehting for light wind fun, I think the SUP (with or without sail) will clearly be a big hit. If you&#39;re not allredy a competent surfer I beleive SUP:ing may be a moree natural step for a windsurfer.

Add to that the fun of just paddling around or light wind cruising (and that the SUP is not the most effective speed machine is not so important here).
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Old 10th June 2007, 10:00 PM   #4
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SUP is a JOKE!

standing up paddling? why?

I am a windsurfer, it looks soooo boring!
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Old 10th June 2007, 11:42 PM   #5
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Well, the joke might just be on you when you&#39;re sitting on the beach and the SUP guys are on the water. But of course, everybody can decide what they think seems like a worthwile to spend time.
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Old 11th June 2007, 02:03 AM   #6
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Yeah, iwas probablty of the same opinion a little while ago.
I surf, i windsurf, this is just another i wanna be laird hamilton sport.Didn´t give it a second though.
That was until I gave it a shot.
There´s something really cool about the glide onto waves as you´re into them so early, and then to dive such a big board down the line is pretty darn sweet.
I got me mate Mike in Oz who just can´t get enough of it living in perth where the waves are just too crap to surf.
And Yeah, i had two sessions in cross onshore and side offshore where no one else was able to go windsurf.
And I had a ball.
Cutties lip hits, the lot. and it was 4-8 knots.
And then there´s the flat water exersize.
Best re hab for my busted up knes and ankles ever, and way more fun just going for a paddle than a pilates class to fix my stuffed back.
Give it a shot.
And then make up your mind.
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Old 11th June 2007, 09:09 AM   #7
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Those who do SUP / longboard wavesailing certainly seem to enjoy it, and I think it has a legitimate place in the world of watersports. I enjoyed seeing the pictures of Scott McKercher doing it at the Guincho contest, and reading Antoine Albeau&#39;s take at windsurfjournal.com .

However, the first poster raises a good point: "would it be better to just do a really good practical longboard really cheap and sell it through walmart? you know $500 dollars all in?" In terms of growing the sport of windsurfing, I think so. A durable plastic board about 70 x 350 cm and 220 liters with a retractable daggerboard and good sub-planing performance is enough to hook someone for life. You just have to give him a lesson and some people to sail with.
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Old 11th June 2007, 09:45 AM   #8
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The original post seems like trolling to me, ahh the FREE Forum...

I see SUP as totally legitimate, and a different thing all together. Thanks Scott and Antoine for showing its potential. I am already very impressed. It will probably help increase windsurfing&#39;s profile to others outside the sport, but it is not meant to "save" windsurfing. Windsurfing does not need saving anyway in my book. It is all about getting out there and having fun. I want one for flat water exercise alone. The fact it can be sailed and surfed... major bonus.

A cheap complete longboard for Walmart is a totally different issue/subject.

I applaud Starboard for recognizing SUPs potential.

I can&#39;t wait to get mine.
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Old 12th June 2007, 05:21 AM   #9
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"The original post seems like trolling to me, ahh the FREE Forum..."

trolling? as long as its not abusive and as long as it promotes a good discussion bring it on----but then i would say that--im the original poster! lol
actually isnt that the point of the free forum?
Im not at all convinced by the sailing SUPs. they are a compromise too far- make em light enough to sup and they wil be destroyed by sailing, make em tough enough to sail and they will be pigs to sup...or cost a fortune.....!
The walmart thing is relevant because SUPS(multi purpose ones) are being marketed as the fun, throwabout, all purpose boards.
This marketing budget , in my view, would be better spent on trying to do the walmart thing
so far the early adopters of the SUP are who exactly?
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Old 12th June 2007, 10:10 AM   #10
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Hi Mr anonymous,

so whats your point,
you mean windsurfing cheap boards must be sold in any wallmart?

For sure I can think industry producing very cheap boards, for sure heavy weights and not so good quality sold by wallmart...say boards at 499 $ US

is that your point, if it is, maybe, we can study if that can make the sport develop faster...for sure can be a choice.

By the other side, SUP has nothing to do with this, Is a new sport based in some surf and windsurf style that many people think shortens the distance from a surfer or begginer to the windsurfing sport. Its fun and maybe its not for Hookipa 30 knots but can give fun when others are just reading a book in the beach.

Its about new alternatives...let it go, maybe its good? also for you in the long term.

Anyway, as a discussion, your point about Wall mart is interesting. Better if you please sign, is much better to discuss with a name to write after saying "hi".

Best luck my friend!

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