Starboard Phantom Race 320 2009and 2010 - problem of water absorption

ZedZdeD · 4th July 2010, 11:25 PM

Hi,

I have two Phantom 320, one 2009, one 2010.

I realized recently that both were absorbing water by the same way : the holes made in the deck to fix the daggerboard. I tested that this afternoon, filled all holes on the deck with water. After a moment, the footstraps insert holes still contained water, but the daggerboard holes were all empty. Also, salt traces appeared around certain of them.

This quickly made my brand new 320 2010 completely unusable, as it reached 23 kilos. I put both boards to dry in my garage after un-mounting their daggerboards, and can just hope that their weight is going to come down ...

Please signal this critical issue to Cobra for future models. I will try to apply more power to the daggerboard screws to limit water absorption.

This is not normal, we should not encounter such an issue, please fix it.

Remi · 5th July 2010, 05:07 PM

Hi ZedZdeD,

Let me know your serial number, thanks

All the best

ZedZdeD · 5th July 2010, 08:07 PM

ST9PRH320a09020040
ST10PHR320S10030007

Remi · 5th July 2010, 08:47 PM

Hi ZedZdeD,

Please weight your board without anything and let me know the weight, thanks (No foot-straps, No Dagger-Board and Side Plate, No Fin, No Track Mast)

Send me photos on Facebook of your problems, can't see how the board can get water from insert

All the best

ZedZdeD · 9th July 2010, 02:33 AM

I let the two boards, deck upwards, the whole week in my garage on the roof of the trailer with board bags below

today I saw that there was a quantity of water below the 2010 on the boardbag at the middle of the board, it must have come out from the daggerboard well, I dont see exactly from where

no more water out of the 2009

I have now put the boards on the roof of the trailer deck below, wait and see
I will weight both boards this weekend

Sailboarder · 23rd November 2010, 07:33 PM

Hello!

I wonder how the problem was resolved in the end, and what was the cause.

Thanks!

Yan

ZedZdeD · 24th November 2010, 01:43 AM

Starboard kindly replaced the board
the origin of water absorption was not precisely identified
the new board has no problem and works like a charm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgZO_wjfBUs

Sailboarder · 25th November 2010, 07:48 AM

Merci!

Crois-tu que je peux enseigner à mes enfants (légers, 25 à 40 kg) à plancher là-dessus? Je crois que le dessus est en EVA, je suis juste surpris qu'ils recommandent une dimension minimale de voile de 6 ou 6.5 m2. La techno 293 serait une alternative, sans l'EVA.

Remi · 25th November 2010, 08:05 AM

Bonjour Sailboarder,

Cette planche à juste un tout petit peu Eva pour les pieds au près sans vent près de la dérive.

Pour apprendre oui ils peuvent avec de très petite voile, mais la forme du pond serra un peut technique pour apprendre, mais cela le fait.

Amicalement

tonymatta · 25th November 2010, 08:43 PM

What was the weight of phantom 320 - 2009?
Mine weighs about 19kg with CB and foot straps. Is this what it should be?

4th July 2010, 11:25 PM	#1
ZedZdeD Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 162	Starboard Phantom Race 320 2009 and 2010 Hi, I have two Phantom 320, one 2009, one 2010. I realized recently that both were absorbing water by the same way : the holes made in the deck to fix the daggerboard. I tested that this afternoon, filled all holes on the deck with water. After a moment, the footstraps insert holes still contained water, but the daggerboard holes were all empty. Also, salt traces appeared around certain of them. This quickly made my brand new 320 2010 completely unusable, as it reached 23 kilos. I put both boards to dry in my garage after un-mounting their daggerboards, and can just hope that their weight is going to come down ... Please signal this critical issue to Cobra for future models. I will try to apply more power to the daggerboard screws to limit water absorption. This is not normal, we should not encounter such an issue, please fix it. Last edited by ZedZdeD; 27th November 2010 at 05:03 AM.

5th July 2010, 05:07 PM	#2
Remi STARBOARD DEVELOPMENT Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Thailand Posts: 2,334	Hi ZedZdeD, Let me know your serial number, thanks All the best __________________ Rémi Can answer if you have any questions on this following boards : Carve 111, 121, 131, 141, 151 & 161 Futura 93, 101, 111, 121, 131 & 141. iSonic 80, 87, 90, 97, 107, 110, 117, 127 & 137 To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. UltraSonic 147 Formula Experience One Design Phantom Race 377/320 To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Phantom 295 : To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Formula 167 & 167 Wide : To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Racing Serinity Cat Concept To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

5th July 2010, 08:47 PM	#4
Remi STARBOARD DEVELOPMENT Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Thailand Posts: 2,334	Hi ZedZdeD, Please weight your board without anything and let me know the weight, thanks (No foot-straps, No Dagger-Board and Side Plate, No Fin, No Track Mast) Send me photos on Facebook of your problems, can't see how the board can get water from insert All the best __________________ Rémi Can answer if you have any questions on this following boards : Carve 111, 121, 131, 141, 151 & 161 Futura 93, 101, 111, 121, 131 & 141. iSonic 80, 87, 90, 97, 107, 110, 117, 127 & 137 To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. UltraSonic 147 Formula Experience One Design Phantom Race 377/320 To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Phantom 295 : To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Formula 167 & 167 Wide : To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Racing Serinity Cat Concept To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Last edited by Remi; 6th July 2010 at 04:55 AM.

25th November 2010, 08:05 AM	#9
Remi STARBOARD DEVELOPMENT Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Thailand Posts: 2,334	Bonjour Sailboarder, Cette planche à juste un tout petit peu Eva pour les pieds au près sans vent près de la dérive. Pour apprendre oui ils peuvent avec de très petite voile, mais la forme du pond serra un peut technique pour apprendre, mais cela le fait. Amicalement __________________ Rémi Can answer if you have any questions on this following boards : Carve 111, 121, 131, 141, 151 & 161 Futura 93, 101, 111, 121, 131 & 141. iSonic 80, 87, 90, 97, 107, 110, 117, 127 & 137 To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. UltraSonic 147 Formula Experience One Design Phantom Race 377/320 To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Phantom 295 : To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Formula 167 & 167 Wide : To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Racing Serinity Cat Concept To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

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5th July 2010, 08:07 PM	#3
ZedZdeD Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 162	ST9PRH320a09020040 ST10PHR320S10030007

9th July 2010, 02:33 AM	#5
ZedZdeD Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 162	I let the two boards, deck upwards, the whole week in my garage on the roof of the trailer with board bags below today I saw that there was a quantity of water below the 2010 on the boardbag at the middle of the board, it must have come out from the daggerboard well, I dont see exactly from where no more water out of the 2009 I have now put the boards on the roof of the trailer deck below, wait and see I will weight both boards this weekend

23rd November 2010, 07:33 PM	#6
Sailboarder Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 76	Hello! I wonder how the problem was resolved in the end, and what was the cause. Thanks! Yan

24th November 2010, 01:43 AM	#7
ZedZdeD Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 162	Starboard kindly replaced the board the origin of water absorption was not precisely identified the new board has no problem and works like a charm http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgZO_wjfBUs

25th November 2010, 07:48 AM	#8
Sailboarder Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 76	Merci! Crois-tu que je peux enseigner à mes enfants (légers, 25 à 40 kg) à plancher là-dessus? Je crois que le dessus est en EVA, je suis juste surpris qu'ils recommandent une dimension minimale de voile de 6 ou 6.5 m2. La techno 293 serait une alternative, sans l'EVA.

25th November 2010, 08:43 PM	#10
tonymatta Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 73	What was the weight of phantom 320 - 2009? Mine weighs about 19kg with CB and foot straps. Is this what it should be?

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